Wiring in a Horn on a KDX220R
Wiring in a Horn on a KDX220R
I am in the process of street-legalizing my KDX. Got the brake light working with a Fredette kit. Now can anyone tell me how to wire in a horn? do I just tap into the headlight power with a switch or what?
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I just get a bicycle horn from walmart- it looks dumb but its dirt cheap and gets the job done
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race30 wrote:I just get a bicycle horn from walmart- it looks dumb but its dirt cheap and gets the job done
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The OEM light coil puts out a bit under four amps.
I doubt that (all of it) would power any kind of horn. Maybe A peizo beeper...but that wouldn't likely qualify under whatever SPL is required in your state for a 'horn'.
What kind of horn did you have in mind? What's the current draw? If you don't know, hook it up to an ammeter and a battery and find out.
I doubt that (all of it) would power any kind of horn. Maybe A peizo beeper...but that wouldn't likely qualify under whatever SPL is required in your state for a 'horn'.
What kind of horn did you have in mind? What's the current draw? If you don't know, hook it up to an ammeter and a battery and find out.
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Here's a wireless horn you can mount on the handle bars.
http://www.instrumentalsavings.com/Bulb ... p/buld.htm
http://www.instrumentalsavings.com/Bulb ... p/buld.htm
My plan was to actually tie wrap a small 12V sealed battery, and then connect the horn to that, because I thought that I didn't want to have the lights on just to use the horn. A small $25 12V battery may put out about 10 Ah, the horn draw I am not sure yet. I will check.
Maybe all the other posts about using a air horn for a bicycle may not be a bad idea after all, but it sure will get a lot of laughs from my other friend riders.
Maybe all the other posts about using a air horn for a bicycle may not be a bad idea after all, but it sure will get a lot of laughs from my other friend riders.
canyncarvr wrote:The OEM light coil puts out a bit under four amps.
I doubt that (all of it) would power any kind of horn. Maybe A peizo beeper...but that wouldn't likely qualify under whatever SPL is required in your state for a 'horn'.
What kind of horn did you have in mind? What's the current draw? If you don't know, hook it up to an ammeter and a battery and find out.
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A good idea...as some states require the horn to work when the engine is NOT running! (This limited statement implies you to have specific legal responsibilities. You may have others, which vary from state to state.)My plan was to actually tie wrap a small 12V sealed battery, and then connect the horn to that, because I thought that I didn't want to have the lights on just to use the horn. A small $25 12V battery may put out about 10 Ah, the horn draw I am not sure yet. I will check.
You have to know what the current draw is when you design your horn setup. If you go that route (battery powered), consider using a relay.
Beep it at'em from the top of that nasty climb you just pulled out of, while they are still trying to get past the 1/2-way mark! That'll shut'em up. All in good fun, of course...but it sure will get a lot of laughs from my other friend riders.
Paint the horn KawGreen!!
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Ok, horn is 1.5A at 12V. What do you recommend for battery size.? I think I can probably go as small as 2Ah because that would mean it would work continuously for over an hour beeping...I plan just to use a push button handlebar mounted kill/horn switch between the battery and horn.
canyncarvr wrote:A good idea...as some states require the horn to work when the engine is NOT running! (This limited statement implies you to have specific legal responsibilities. You may have others, which vary from state to state.)My plan was to actually tie wrap a small 12V sealed battery, and then connect the horn to that, because I thought that I didn't want to have the lights on just to use the horn. A small $25 12V battery may put out about 10 Ah, the horn draw I am not sure yet. I will check.
You have to know what the current draw is when you design your horn setup. If you go that route (battery powered), consider using a relay.
Beep it at'em from the top of that nasty climb you just pulled out of, while they are still trying to get past the 1/2-way mark! That'll shut'em up. All in good fun, of course...but it sure will get a lot of laughs from my other friend riders.
Paint the horn KawGreen!!
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I expected considerably more than 1.5A sucked by the horn...
It's safe to assume that the printed ratings are at the best, hopeful. Still..a 2AH battery should fire the horn as much as it would be needed (assuming you don't spend a WHOLE lot of time beeping it at the top of that hill).
12VDC will have a hard time (considerable loss) going through relatively small wire. I don't know where you plan on putting the battery, the switch, the horn..but if it's more than a few inches of wire, DO use a relay. That way you can use quite small wire to run the relay and NOT have to run satisfactorily fat wire from the batt to/thru the switch and still to the horn.
Whatever suits.
Yeah..you will lose some AH running the relay AND the horn...but depending on your layout you gain more than you lose if you're trying to run the whole mess with 3-4' of #18-20 wire.
That you are familiar with what an AH even is...says you know what you're doing...so sorry for too much basic junk.
Happy beeping!
It's safe to assume that the printed ratings are at the best, hopeful. Still..a 2AH battery should fire the horn as much as it would be needed (assuming you don't spend a WHOLE lot of time beeping it at the top of that hill).
12VDC will have a hard time (considerable loss) going through relatively small wire. I don't know where you plan on putting the battery, the switch, the horn..but if it's more than a few inches of wire, DO use a relay. That way you can use quite small wire to run the relay and NOT have to run satisfactorily fat wire from the batt to/thru the switch and still to the horn.
Whatever suits.
Yeah..you will lose some AH running the relay AND the horn...but depending on your layout you gain more than you lose if you're trying to run the whole mess with 3-4' of #18-20 wire.
That you are familiar with what an AH even is...says you know what you're doing...so sorry for too much basic junk.
Happy beeping!
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Your suggestions and points are very much appreciated. The horn switch is just a handle bar mounted pushbutton with 17-inch leads. So the battery will have to be tied in close to the front. I am thinking right up front next to the trip meter. The battery/horn/switch cost $8/$8.50/$9.25 w/o shipping. I'll post a pic of my setup as soon I get the parts in and it's done.
canyncarvr wrote:I expected considerably more than 1.5A sucked by the horn...
It's safe to assume that the printed ratings are at the best, hopeful. Still..a 2AH battery should fire the horn as much as it would be needed (assuming you don't spend a WHOLE lot of time beeping it at the top of that hill).
12VDC will have a hard time (considerable loss) going through relatively small wire. I don't know where you plan on putting the battery, the switch, the horn..but if it's more than a few inches of wire, DO use a relay. That way you can use quite small wire to run the relay and NOT have to run satisfactorily fat wire from the batt to/thru the switch and still to the horn.
Whatever suits.
Yeah..you will lose some AH running the relay AND the horn...but depending on your layout you gain more than you lose if you're trying to run the whole mess with 3-4' of #18-20 wire.
That you are familiar with what an AH even is...says you know what you're doing...so sorry for too much basic junk.
Happy beeping!
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17" is quite a bit...and the higher the draw of the load, the more loss you'll get through the wire. Cut'em as short as you can and still have the install work. Don't 'save' what's there in a loop for some future use.
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Id go with a kit from pro-cycle
http://www.procycle.us/main/dskit.htm
http://www.procycle.us/main/dskit.htm
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I used a bicycle horn that works off a 9v battery for the MOT test in the UK. It just straps to the handlebar and has a short length of cable and a separate push button. Took it off as soon as I got the test certificate and will just fit it every 12 months for the test.
It is called a "buddy Megahorn", have a look on eBay.
It is called a "buddy Megahorn", have a look on eBay.
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street legal kdx
i bought a 1999 kdx 220 off of e**y last september.it came with a street legal kit from a place called trailtotrail.com.also known as jgear.it comes with everything but the upgraded coil and is plug and play.check out the site and the kaw kit. its kinda pricy at $219.95 but all the leg work is done for you.good luck j$.
1999 kdx 220
rb carb, rb head pump gas mod. 607 reeds, airbox lid drilled
fmf torque pipe
fmf turbine core Q
trail tech endurance computer
13/49 gear
rb carb, rb head pump gas mod. 607 reeds, airbox lid drilled
fmf torque pipe
fmf turbine core Q
trail tech endurance computer
13/49 gear