How many kicks?

bronco95tgp · Post by **bronco95tgp** » 11:48 pm Jun 16 2005

How many kicks does it take to start your bike when the motor is cold? Mine takes 3 from a cold start with the choke on. Is this good, bad, or right on the money?

Post by **Indawoods** » 12:17 am Jun 17 2005

That's fine Bronco...if it takes more than 4 you would have a problem somewhere.

...mine usually takes 1 unless I forget and leave the plug in the silencer.

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 01:03 am Jun 17 2005

How would you class 2 prime kicks with the kill switch off and then she'll fire on the next ??? I'm guessing 3 ???

Post by **KDXGarage** » 05:54 am Jun 17 2005

My '94 took one kick when cold. My '87 is one or two.

I offered to help you jet your bike last year. Your right leg, exhaust pipe and silencer/spark arrestor should be built up pretty well by now. Keep kickin', cool chicken.

bradf · Post by **bradf** » 08:06 am Jun 17 2005

I usually lean over the seat and start it by hand with 1 or 2 pushes.

m0rie · Post by **m0rie** » 09:21 am Jun 17 2005

My 89 used to take 1 kick, now that the kick starter pawl is getting a little on the worn side it takes 2 generally...

bronco95tgp · Post by **bronco95tgp** » 11:49 am Jun 18 2005

So what you are saying Jason, is that the number of kicks it takes to start my bike has a fairly direct relation to the way I have it jetted? I have done a little work on my jets following the guide that I printed off of this site or the other site or somewheres like that, I know they are not perfect but I think it is pretty close...

Post by **KDXGarage** » 12:41 pm Jun 18 2005

If it takes 3 kicks to start a 2004 bike, then something is wrong, either in jetting, starting technique or something. I think with a little tweaking of one of those, it should be starting right up. How many kicks does it take when the engine is completely warm?

Post by **Mr. Wibbens** » 01:24 pm Jun 18 2005

My KDX sat for eight months and started on the 3rd kick, even with eight month old gas in it.

motorider200 · Post by **motorider200** » 04:14 pm Jun 18 2005

Mine takes two when cold and one when warm in gear or not.

bronco95tgp · Post by **bronco95tgp** » 04:16 pm Jun 18 2005

My bike starts on the first kick when it has been running, say for example after a break while riding, it always starts on the first kick. I always turn the gas off and let the bike run until it dies when I plan to put her away, then when it comes time to start back up, I turn the gas on, pull the choke up, and then kick it three times, and like clockwork it starts on the 3rd time. Sometimes after I wash it with the pressure washer, it may take more than 3 kicks.

Post by **Indawoods** » 04:45 pm Jun 18 2005

There it is...

If you ride frequently... no need to run it out of gas to clear bowl. If you still do this.... just give it a crank or two on the throttle after you turn the gas back on... this will fill the bowl up so it will start.

No gas=No start!

Post by **KDXGarage** » 07:08 pm Jun 18 2005

Maybe turn the fuel flow on, then wait longer to let it fill the bowl up first. Try that sometime and report back. Let it flow for a few minutes to make sure it is full. I know it will fill up in less time, but it is just to make sure.

jackpiner57 · Post by **jackpiner57** » 08:57 pm Jun 19 2005

I did a new top end and it started on the second kick. Just like always when cold. First kick always when warm though.

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 12:49 pm Jun 20 2005

re: 'just give it a crank or two on the throttle after you turn the gas back on'

Yes. This enables the accelerator pump to 'prime' the cylinder so it starts easer.

...right?

Oh...that's my 700SC.

Well...IT has Keihin carbs, TOO (four of 'em!)..so they gotta be the same as the Keihin on the Kawi...right?

This isn't a big deal, is it? Three is fine, two is fine. IMO, I'd be pretty sure the bike was way too rich if it starts with one kick on a choke-cold start with the airscrew set to a 'riding' position.

My bike has always started first kick after a rebuild. Real good piston/cylinder seal probably.

If you start on three kicks, you're fine.

Start by hand? Wow. My knuckles against the peg once would sure cure me of THAT!

Well, I've started my bike by hand before..but only when I had to...too steep..can't reach the kicker with my foot...stuff like that.

re: running it out of fuel.

To each his own. As you do that, the engine runs more and more lean. On a 2-smoke that means less and less lubrication. Makes much more sense to me, from a longevity standpoint, to choke it to death.

Also, any varnish deposits are more likely from an empty fuel bowl than a full one.

During this 'drain' process, be sure to wrap the throttle up to about 3/4! It will take a lot less time to empty the bowl that way!

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Post by **KDXGarage** » 01:03 pm Jun 20 2005

I'd be pretty sure the bike was way too rich if it starts with one kick on a choke-cold start with the airscrew set to a 'riding' position.

Nope, 'fraid not.

Post by **Indawoods** » 01:17 pm Jun 20 2005

If anything... I'm on the lean side of things...

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 02:32 pm Jun 20 2005

I'd never want to actually be afraid of such a thing....

To each his own!

I promise not to kick your bike if you promise not to jet mine!

Post by **KDXGarage** » 02:49 pm Jun 20 2005

Do I sound like such a poor mechanic that there is no way it could do it? Your experience with your one KDX may not reflect upon the entire KDX population. Just because you can't crank yours with one kick, doesn't mean that it is jetted properly no more than mine would be jetted improperly because it can be cranked with one kick.

Post by **Mr. Wibbens** » 02:53 pm Jun 20 2005

Jason wrote:Do I sound like such a poor mechanic

No, but sounds like your fruit o' the looms need to be readjusted!

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