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Posted: 02:59 pm Apr 14 2010
by KDX220rser
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Sapphire wrote:
I think though...what I'm going to do, is just be patient and buy a 12-15 hunert dollar KDX and ENJOY!.

Sound reasonable??
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Posted: 09:32 pm Apr 14 2010
by ihatefalling
I've got a pretty well tuned 220 and 400E with the FCR carb. The 220 is lighter and more agile, it will pull reasonably hard but has a slower top end. The 400 is a brute and blast to ride, heavy and tall but that mofo will friggin ROLL. If I had to choose one.....I would take the 220, simply b/c it gives you the ability to flick and ride tight woods.Put a Z in the woods or drop it and you've got a lot on your hands. Plus you don't have to worry about valves, battery and the host of small preventative mods you have to do to the Z.

Re: How much funner is the KDX than a DRZ 400?

Posted: 08:10 am Apr 15 2010
by NewMexico505
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Sapphire wrote:I know these bikes are vastly different...but for some reason or another, I've settled either on the DRZ 400 (old, dirtbike....not enduro) or the KDX....OR a KTM 200 exc if I can find one....

I am going to be doing a LOT of play riding... some on tracks, mostly on trails and gravel pits and such... I LOVE the power of the DRZ I'm riding now, but am really thinking the lightweight and better handling of the KDX will be the cats patooty...

Opinions??
Now go ask the same question on a DRZ site, each bike-specific site is biased to their own.

Posted: 08:43 am Apr 15 2010
by Sapphire
Yeah... I have dont that at TT.... and you are right. And I go back and forth hourly!!! Like mentioned above though... the Deez is just a big bike and riding anything technical, steep, rocky, tight and such... I am thinking it would be a bear.... Drop it a couple times and be Worn Out... Then there's the valves and such....

I dont know... I have a very clean and good running DRZ next door that is for sale at a reasonable price...

I can ride it anytime I want ....

Right now, I am going to focus on finding a KDX owner in Billings area to let me take a little spin. There are even a couple other bikes I'd like to try. Although...I just have a feeling I'll be happy with the KDX...

Posted: 08:57 am Apr 15 2010
by ihatefalling
Just get two jobs and buy them BOTH ! :lol:

Posted: 09:57 am Apr 15 2010
by frankenschwinn
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Sapphire wrote:Yeah... I have dont that at TT.... and you are right. And I go back and forth hourly!!! Like mentioned above though... the Deez is just a big bike and riding anything technical, steep, rocky, tight and such... I am thinking it would be a bear.... Drop it a couple times and be Worn Out... Then there's the valves and such....

I dont know... I have a very clean and good running DRZ next door that is for sale at a reasonable price...

I can ride it anytime I want ....

Right now, I am going to focus on finding a KDX owner in Billings area to let me take a little spin. There are even a couple other bikes I'd like to try. Although...I just have a feeling I'll be happy with the KDX...
You can not go wrong with the KDX. Fast, Low maint. plenty of room to grow and relativley inexpensive.

Posted: 10:18 am Apr 15 2010
by fuzzy
Just a FCR carb is 1/3rd the cost of a decent KDX. I wouldn't mind having a 400 as a dual sport, but for a trailered bike....KDX wins.

Posted: 11:47 am Apr 15 2010
by Green Hornet
I like my DRZ440SM on the road. On the trail I do not want to think about lifting a 300+ lb. machine up. For the dirt I would go with the KDX. A FCR39MX from TT is over $500, MRD Race Pipe System $350+ & its a 4Broke$$$$$$$$$$

Posted: 12:18 pm Apr 15 2010
by Sapphire
"A FCR39MX from TT is over $500, MRD Race Pipe System $350+ & its a 4Broke$$$$$$$$$$"

I'm sorry, you lost me. .. are you saying a new carb and pipe will make it rip ass???
:rolleyes:

Posted: 12:47 pm Apr 15 2010
by exbee
He's saying the "hop up" parts are expensive and in the end it's still a heavy 4-stroke that's costly to rebuild...

Posted: 01:04 pm Apr 15 2010
by Sapphire
I "think" the 00' Deezer I'm looking at has the FCR...Khelein or something like that?? The thing rips for sure, but Ijust dont want it to fall on me in the rocks!!!

By the time you put bark busters and skid plates and ??? else on the KDX...how heavy are they getting? Is there any easy ways to bump them down another 10 puonds?

I'm splitting hairs here...I need to quit that :blink:

Posted: 01:17 pm Apr 15 2010
by scheckaet
The DRZ will never be as good as the KDX in tight wood mainly because of the weight.
Also, the z is more expensive to mod and get it on par with the kdx imo, just the carb and yoshi pipe is like over 1000 bux. For that much you can do RB, KX front end and suspension tune up...
On stock suspension, in more open terrain like desert riding, the z most likely handles better than a KDX; however, if they're tune right I don't think it'd make that much difference.
The DRZ has a somewhat bullet proof motor for a 4 stroke, the valve adjustment is fairly easy and don't really need to be adjusted that often, there are a few mods and preventive maintenance that makes it very reliable. I consider it to be the equivalent (for reliability) of the KDX in the 4 stroke world if that makes sense.

With that being said, the only real advantage of the z, is you can plate it and dual sport it.

Posted: 12:25 pm Apr 16 2010
by kywoodsrider
Not to mention the KDX is a lot easier to work on. I have owned both, and I would much rather work on the KDX. The DRZ FCR carb is a pain to pull off, the fuel air mixture screw is facing down at the starter, and it is much more difficult to jet that carb. The DRZ also feels so much heavier then the KDX. The only thing I liked about the DRZ was that it seemed to pull forever on the top end.

Posted: 05:16 pm Apr 16 2010
by Jonooffler
Hi I have owned a DRZ400 and the KDX220 yes the DRZ has a lot of grunt but I would always go for the KDX every time It's way more fun and a hell of a lot lighter.As for the KTM well nice bike but the KDX will run for longer and is less of a handfull.

Posted: 06:45 pm Apr 21 2010
by KillDozer
I've got a drz 400 it's one of the easiest bikes to wheelie that I've owned. My kx 500 was pretty easy to wheelie too.

Posted: 08:26 pm Apr 21 2010
by Brian
My buddy had the DRZ and it is a neet bike but it is very heavy compared to the KDX. If you like to sit down when you ride and have mild, open trails then the DRZ will be ok but if you have tight, rough terrain and you like to "dance" with your bike the KDX is the way to go.

If you get the DRZ, make sure you ride with a buddy so when you lay her down in the woods you can take turns getting it kick started.

The KDX is very inexpensive to own and very cheep to hop up and make it fit your riding style.