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Hi all,
I thought this would be of some interest to some of you.
In past years I have used LL100 (av gas) in a witches brew, and I know a lot of people that have used it too.
One of my long time customers/engine builder, had some friends that mixed up some pre-mix using av gas. They used it in two different bikes, one a Banshee and the other a CR 250R and both bikes blew up, holed the pistons.
They ended up checking the pre-mix and poured one gal of the av gas into a clear container and put in the proper amount of pre-mix oil, then shook the hell out of it.
Less than 4 hours later the pre-mix oil was at the bottom of the of the container. Then they looked in the float bowls and the pre-mix was at the bottom of the bowls, it had separated from the av gas.
I do not know for sure, but I think they have changed the LL100 formula and it does not seem to mix with oil. The people at the air port will not comment on this....
Just thought I would mention this.
Ron
I thought this would be of some interest to some of you.
In past years I have used LL100 (av gas) in a witches brew, and I know a lot of people that have used it too.
One of my long time customers/engine builder, had some friends that mixed up some pre-mix using av gas. They used it in two different bikes, one a Banshee and the other a CR 250R and both bikes blew up, holed the pistons.
They ended up checking the pre-mix and poured one gal of the av gas into a clear container and put in the proper amount of pre-mix oil, then shook the hell out of it.
Less than 4 hours later the pre-mix oil was at the bottom of the of the container. Then they looked in the float bowls and the pre-mix was at the bottom of the bowls, it had separated from the av gas.
I do not know for sure, but I think they have changed the LL100 formula and it does not seem to mix with oil. The people at the air port will not comment on this....
Just thought I would mention this.
Ron
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That's odd due to allot of aircraft engines are 2 stroke motors correct?
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Well...that just can't be!!! ..the 'LL' part being 'Low Lead'.GS wrote: 100LL (AvGas) is pretty hefty on lead content FWIW.
That's interesting..the oil separation part. I'm sure it would all be better if you added some nitromethane. Say, 1/2oz. in 10 gallons.
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Well I decided to do my own experiment I used three different mixes all at 40-1 one mix was av100ll the second was half av100ll half premium pump gas Arco the third was premium pump gas from Arco all three were 40-1 Golden Spectro I am a believer in this stuff and will not run any thing else, power valves are always good and clean when I tear her down. I let all three mixes set for 5 hours I can see no separation at all. I would have to wonder what they were using for premix, maybe Bellray? Any way I am going to keep running the av100ll. I am also a firm believer in shaking my bike before kicking always have. I will let this mix sit for 2 or 3 hours more but I doubt its going to change, none of them have.
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I'd forgotten about this. Under the heading of FWIW....
Posted: Thinking about using gas from airport.
Posted: Thinking about using gas from airport.
From HERE!R.Rohrich wrote:Unless your bike is knocking BADLY there isn't any power to be had, and the throttle response will likely be about the same or worse unless you are running a high alcohol percentage pump fuel. The upside is the AvGas will likely be more consistent and easier to jet, but from a pure performance standpoint it's of no real value.
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