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Time for a new chain and sprockets, been running renthal r3 o ring, for the most part I am pretty happy with the renthal but thinking about a non o ring chain, I ride in a lot of mud, any opinions?
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I love my Primary Drive X-ring chain.... Been very good to me with no stretching after the initial stretch....
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He said, '...o-ring chain...'
Whatever ring type it is is not the point. The point is that any ringed chain will be harder to turn than a NON-ringed chain. Or..a non-ringed chain will be easier to turn than any ringed chain.
The friction inherent in those rings does make a difference. Friction isn't free. Well, compensating for it isn't.
If you are of the opinion that the more free movement of the final drive is important, run a non-ringed chain. If longevity is more important (and subsequently, free movement LESS important), run a good ringed (O, X, T, or whatever else you wanna call it) chain.
...which will very unlikely actually be an 'O' ringed chain.
'Ya think Stewart runs a ringed chain?
I doubt it.
Are you going to put on a new chain after every ride?
I doubt it.
Whatever ring type it is is not the point. The point is that any ringed chain will be harder to turn than a NON-ringed chain. Or..a non-ringed chain will be easier to turn than any ringed chain.
The friction inherent in those rings does make a difference. Friction isn't free. Well, compensating for it isn't.
If you are of the opinion that the more free movement of the final drive is important, run a non-ringed chain. If longevity is more important (and subsequently, free movement LESS important), run a good ringed (O, X, T, or whatever else you wanna call it) chain.
...which will very unlikely actually be an 'O' ringed chain.
'Ya think Stewart runs a ringed chain?
I doubt it.
Are you going to put on a new chain after every ride?
I doubt it.
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This comes under the 'everybody has an opinion' heading..'cuz everybody does.
Me, too!
I've used Primary drive sprockets. They were OK..but that's about it. Renthal sprockets are far superior..sez me. What anyone wouldn't like about a sprocket that does cost maybe 50% more...but lasts 2-3x as long, I don't know.
I do think the same applies to chains. A cheap chain is just that. Cheap. Some would have you believe that any chain will work well...if it's taken care of.
Baloney. That's like saying there isn't any difference between a chinese and an NSK wheel bearing.
Anyone that believes that, well, I'm sorry. You're welcome to think whatever you like.
I'm not saying Renthal chains are better than others..or as good. I have no idea.
What I AM cautioning against is buying a chain that is 'less' expensive based solely on its price. That likely isn't a good idea.
Me, too!
I've used Primary drive sprockets. They were OK..but that's about it. Renthal sprockets are far superior..sez me. What anyone wouldn't like about a sprocket that does cost maybe 50% more...but lasts 2-3x as long, I don't know.
I do think the same applies to chains. A cheap chain is just that. Cheap. Some would have you believe that any chain will work well...if it's taken care of.
Baloney. That's like saying there isn't any difference between a chinese and an NSK wheel bearing.
Anyone that believes that, well, I'm sorry. You're welcome to think whatever you like.
I'm not saying Renthal chains are better than others..or as good. I have no idea.
What I AM cautioning against is buying a chain that is 'less' expensive based solely on its price. That likely isn't a good idea.
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I agree with the sprocket statement... but I have real life experience with both. Primary Drive chains are good.
Also... check the specs on them compared to other makers.
Also... check the specs on them compared to other makers.
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That's the best input...real life experience..when it comes to what works, what don't.
How's your sidewinder doing?
How's your sidewinder doing?
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Who? Kirsten?
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I dunno..does she have 47/49 teeth? Crooked ones at that?
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Oh... you mean my tool steel Z-Sprocket!
Hardly no wear at all... love that thing!
Hardly no wear at all... love that thing!
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Oops. I would'a bet it was a Sidewinder...
Back to chains, anyone try these?
A guaranteed forever sprocket sounds good..........(note..does not apply to 'custom' gear sets, so maybe use of a 12T would negate their guarantee).
Back to chains, anyone try these?
A guaranteed forever sprocket sounds good..........(note..does not apply to 'custom' gear sets, so maybe use of a 12T would negate their guarantee).
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Z Sprockets are about $35.... I will stick with those....
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Your source?
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