trans oil

[3dhunt]

i didn't get a manual with my 03 220R how much tranny oil do i use. also does anyone know where i can find some new green side covers for a 220, were there any years that used them. thanks 3d

[pjmac28]

It takes .7 litre. Right behind where you pour in the tranny oil it should be stamped on the engine.

[Indawoods]

Most people put an entire quart in it... it helps quiet down the clutch a bit.

[pjmac28]

Thanks Inda, that's good to know.

[skipro3]

A full quart will do no harm and does quiet down that rattle a little too. Several owners find vast differences in the performance of their clutches using the same lubes though. For example; some guys like to use ATF. I hated it. Some like all synth. I do too but it's a bit expensive. Some like to use oil rated for diesel engines. That's what I use. There's threads on here why if you are interested.

[gtoron]

Skidpro....Nice Avitar

A full quart will do no harm and does quiet down that rattle a little too. Several owners find vast differences in the performance of their clutches using the same lubes though. For example; some guys like to use ATF. I hated it. Some like all synth. I do too but it's a bit expensive. Some like to use oil rated for diesel engines. That's what I use. There's threads on here why if you are interested.

[kdxquebec]

Skidpro....Nice Avitar

The left one seems to be bigger.

Nice pair!

[canyncarvr]

I use a quart per oil change...but 100ml or so out of it goes in AFTER the tranny is drained, BEFORE the plug is put back in. Kind of a 'rinse' before I plug it up, dump in the remaining 800-850 or so ml.

[lemmy]

That sounds like a good idea. I have been using 800-850 of Motul 10W30. But I am thinking of trying ATF, I just can't decide on Type F or the Dexron/Mercon stuff.

[canyncarvr]

What are your friction plates made out of?

Basically:

The type of fluid to use depends on the friction materials used to build the transmission. C4 and C6 transmissions are typically built with the same friction material as was used in the mid to late 60's. It is compatible with the friction modifiers in type "F" ATF. If the transmission has been built with carbon or Kevlar friction materials then you will have to use a synthetic oil like Mercon V.
The reason for this is that the carbon and Kevlar materials do not completely stop the drums - they slip at about 40 - 50 rpm and never lock up completely. This generates a lot of heat and it takes a synthetic fluid to withstand it. You should not use the synthetic oils with the older friction matrials because it will allow the friction materials to slip, causing heat and destruction of the materials. The oil will be fine but the friction material will flake off and go through your transmission.

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Type 'F' has friction modifiers that slip less. I looked a little, didn't find a source with documentation...but believe the 'F' had to do with a small clutch configuration Ford came up with that had to 'stick' pretty good to work well. NOT using type 'F' would lead to slippage..and the problems noted above.

Kind'a likethis:

This product is sometimes used as a "competition" automatic transmission fluid, since it gives quicker lock-ups on shifts than DEXRON® III or MERCON® type fluids. FORD TYPE F was designed for Ford Motor Company fast shifting transmissions which utilized a "quick grabbing clutch". This product is a non-friction-modified fluid designed for the FORD FMX Transmissions produced from 1959 through 1981.


Here is the organicpart of it:

Type "F" is formulated to work with organic media on bands (back in the bad old days, prior to the EPA, band, clutch material was made using asbestos). Type "F" was used since it would not attack the liner material.

[lemmy]

Thanks. I was leaning towards type F. It looks like the way to go.