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Fork bleeder screw size

Posted: 10:16 pm Jan 05 2009
by cleoent
I would like to purchase a set of either moose or motion pro bleeders for my standard US spec forks. What size do i need? Going online all i see is KX options, are they the same size?

Posted: 10:24 pm Jan 05 2009
by N8Strine
Just watch out with those for the stock kdx forks as you will not be able to put the moose ones on because they are too short since the caps on the conventional forks are countersunk and you can't get the little wrench in there to tighten, so you will prob have to go with motion pro bleeders.

Posted: 10:28 pm Jan 05 2009
by cleoent
Thanks for the heads up, i know that the motion pro ones are super tall, any problems with handlebar clearance?

Posted: 10:46 pm Jan 05 2009
by Mr. Wibbens
No problems here

And my barkbusters give them some protection

Posted: 10:54 pm Jan 05 2009
by cleoent
What size? KX forks size? .08 or something like that?

Posted: 10:59 pm Jan 05 2009
by Mr. Wibbens

Posted: 11:04 pm Jan 05 2009
by cleoent
Thanks :)

Posted: 09:03 pm Jan 06 2009
by canyncarvr
What's the end mill for? To countersink 'em? Give the o-ring something to seat in? If so, then why wouldn't the other 'adapted' set need an end mill?

Who has end mills in their toolbox anyway ('cept for metal smithies).

Posted: 10:45 pm Jan 06 2009
by Mr. Wibbens
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canyncarvr wrote:What's the end mill for? To countersink 'em? Give the o-ring something to seat in? If so, then why wouldn't the other 'adapted' set need an end mill?

Who has end mills in their toolbox anyway ('cept for metal smithies).
O-ring aint gonna contact anything, see where it is?

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Posted: 01:26 am Jan 07 2009
by canyncarvr
Yeah...the end mill is a lot bigger, too.

So what's the end mill for? It's 7/16, the popper is 5/32.

The o-ring is there for looks? It DOES look cute!

Posted: 08:43 am Jan 07 2009
by KarlP
The o-ring seen in the picture is there to keep the air and oil in the shock until one pushes on the bleeder.

Jeeeez

There must be another o-ring that goes at the top of the threads. See the groove?

The end mill could be used to make a seat for the o-ring that goes at the top of the threads, I guess.

I might be just stirring up trouble..

Posted: 12:41 pm Jan 07 2009
by canyncarvr
The o-ring seen in the picture is there to keep the air and oil in the shock until one pushes on the bleeder.

I knew that.... Something has to keep pressure IN the fork.

It didn't occur to me at the time...but I DID know it! :wink:

Re: 'The end mill could be used to make a seat for the o-ring that goes at the top of the threads, I guess.'

There is no o-ring on the top. That's what those washers are for (that are shown in the link pic).

The TALL bleeders..that consist of the same poppers threaded into metric thread adapters (no drilling/tapping/milling required), they DO have o-rings on them just as the OEM screws do.

I suppose the mill end could fit the washers on top..but why bother with that?

Maybe you don't need it at all. It DOES say required is what makes me think, well, it's, uh.... required?

Posted: 01:17 pm Jan 07 2009
by Indawoods
I have the bleeders.... always forget about them though.... so they are real useful! :lol:

Posted: 01:24 pm Jan 07 2009
by canyncarvr
They aren't that useful in USD forks. Not for riding, anyway. The USDs don't build up pressure in them too much. I use them to vent the forks after I strap the bike in on the trailer (and unstrap). I use them to 'tune' the forks during a ride, too, sometimes venting the forks with 'some' compression, sometimes not. Sub-tanks on a budget!

On the RSU forks, they were very useful. About the time the bike started acting like there was NO give in the front-end at ALL (bike would crab trying to turn out of a 2" deep rut! It would NOT climb out!!), venting the forks made it ALL BETTER!

That would happen at least a couple times a ride.

If <you> (insert whomever here) are riding OEM RSU forks and NOT using fork poppers....you are absolutely having a rougher time handling your KDX KYBs than you need to be having! Guaranteed.

Posted: 11:03 pm Jan 07 2009
by cleoent
what are RSU forks?

Posted: 12:51 am Jan 08 2009
by canyncarvr
RSU: Right Side Up ('conventional' forks, as in OEM KDX. Most KDXs anyway).

As opposed to: USD: Up Side Down (MX bikes, KXs and such).

Of course, any USD rider would say THEIR FORKS are the RIGHT Side Up ones....

'Cept for the likes of wookies that like their earlier model KDX OEM forks. :wink:

Capiche?

Posted: 02:02 pm Jan 08 2009
by Mr. Wibbens
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canyncarvr wrote: 'Cept for the likes of wookies that like their earlier model KDX OEM forks. :wink:

Capiche?

It's not really that I like them. I just don't think they as bad as everyone says

Posted: 05:49 pm Jan 08 2009
by N8Strine
Yea they aren't a bad fork, I do like my KX forks alot better, no more getting stopped dead in a deep rut from the underhang of the oem forks

Posted: 06:55 pm Jan 08 2009
by Mr. Wibbens
I seem to have more problem with my footpegs hanging up long before my fork lowers do :?