Opening up the cockpit

Ondatrail · Post by **Ondatrail** » 09:23 pm Feb 17 2008

After sitting on my friends MX'ers I noticed it feels as if your sitting "in" the cockpit on the KDX. Are there ways you guys know to open it up?

Post by **Indawoods** » 09:28 pm Feb 17 2008

Put a very tall seat foam on your bike.....

Ondatrail · Post by **Ondatrail** » 09:43 pm Feb 17 2008

Indawoods wrote:Put a very tall seat foam on your bike.....

I've heard of that before but I'm 6ft and don't want to be searching blindly for the ground. There are lowering kits for the linkage. Does this effect the suspension? And has anyone made them?

Post by **Indawoods** » 10:00 pm Feb 17 2008

That is about the only thing that will change the feel....

2001kdx · Post by **2001kdx** » 10:35 pm Feb 17 2008

Since when does a 6 footer worry about how much clearance he'll have to the ground?

Tall seat foam would be a good idea - make sure to get firm.

You will not get that agressive cockpit feel of the Mx'ers, you'll have a wider seat, and a steep slope up to the tank. In the words of
Borat, "You will never get this You will never get this"

Ondatrail · Post by **Ondatrail** » 10:40 pm Feb 17 2008

2001kdx wrote:You will not get that agressive cockpit feel of the Mx'ers, you'll have a wider seat, and a steep slope up to the tank. In the words of
Borat, "You will never get this You will never get this"

I know not AS open as an MX'er, but you know always tring to improve something

2001kdx · Post by **2001kdx** » 10:41 pm Feb 17 2008

How's the ankle?

firffighter · Post by **firffighter** » 11:49 pm Feb 17 2008

I have a Guts tall, firm seat, IMS super stock pegs, and Renthal high bend bars with my bar mounts turned around to put them farther up and forward. These have made a huge difference in the bike's layout.
After coming off of a KTM, I wanted that aggressive layout, and have it now with these mods.

I'm 5'11" and dont find the seat too tall.

I just rode today with my brother who has a KDX 200 with the IMS pegs and Pro Taper high bars. He has the stock seat. We swithced bikes for awhile, and the seat makes a huge difference. It forces you up on the tank and gives it that aggressive feel.

Ondatrail · Post by **Ondatrail** » 12:12 pm Feb 18 2008

Seat it is then! I have some bar risers from a snowmobile laying around that I could maybe talk my dad into giving me.

Did those pegs make that much of a difference? Not too crazy about the price tag but KX pegs are always an option.

2001kdx, My ankle is doing better should be able to walk tomarrow.
(Playing football and had four guys fall on me while taking one guy down. When I landed I felt my toe touch my my shin)

dejovi22 · Post by **dejovi22** » 12:25 pm Feb 18 2008

Ondatrail,

Correct, GUTS seat is one of the best improvementes you can make. I have it and it is pretty good. Also, if you have the stock upper clamp switch the handlebar clamps 180 degrees (they are offset), that will move the handlebar forward 5 mm. The other option (more expensive) is to buy the Applied upper clamp for the KDX's which moves the handlebar position not only forward but higher.

Ondatrail · Post by **Ondatrail** » 12:36 pm Feb 18 2008

dejovi22, already flipped 'em. Now I just need to raise the funds to buy the foam.

firffighter · Post by **firffighter** » 12:56 pm Feb 18 2008

I like the pegs. I've run wide pegs on all of my bikes. I put on the KX pegs at first, and they are fairly close to the same width as the IMS. I was not able to get them to move freely though, but I didnt mess with them too much. If you are interested in them let me know.

Ondatrail · Post by **Ondatrail** » 01:38 pm Feb 18 2008

firffighter, I might be interested in the pegs, but it depends on the price as I don't even have the money for the foam now. What firmness did you get for the seat?

firffighter · Post by **firffighter** » 02:24 pm Feb 18 2008

I bought Krazyinski's seat which is tall, firm. I think it is comfortable, but I stand a lot and did come off of a KTM, which has a terribly uncomfortable seat. PM me in the pegs. I'll give you a good price.

jc7622 · Post by **jc7622** » 12:24 pm Feb 19 2008

Hey guys, what KX pegs fit the KDX? How are they different?

Post by **Indawoods** » 12:32 pm Feb 19 2008

firffighter · Post by **firffighter** » 12:57 pm Feb 19 2008

I used KX250 pegs. They are wider than stock, but not as wide as IMS. If I remeber right, IMS are 3" and stock are 2 1/2", and KX are 2 3/4".

They fit into the frame tabs, but are very snug. Because they are in there tighter than stock, they dont have any free-play to allow them to rotate up and back like stockers. I suppose if you bent the mounts on the frame slightly, they would be able to rotate, or you could grind the mounting end of the KX peg to get the same result. I did not play around with mine because I got some IMS for a screaming deal at our local MX shop.

Jeb · Post by **Jeb** » 08:47 pm Feb 19 2008

Another great way to change the cockpit - USD forks!

The top clamp of my YZ KYBs are aftermarket (Applied Racing) and I added some aftermarket risers so that I could stay with 7/8" bar setup. I'm just about where I want to be for handlebar height - I can stand on the pegs with my knees slightly bent and don't have to lean forward. A little higher and I can operate my controls more easily while standing.

I'm glad to hear that the Guts tall seat works so well. Sounds worthy of consideration.

jc7622 · Post by **jc7622** » 09:24 am Feb 20 2008

How much taller is the Guts tall seat? Why do you say to use the firm foam? How firm is it? How would the firmness of the stock KDX foam compare to the Guts soft, medium and firm?

dejovi22 · Post by **dejovi22** » 10:15 am Feb 20 2008

In my opinion the stock seat foam of the KDX is soft and deteriorates quickly. I am not sure how much taller the GUTS seat foams are; I ordered mine standard and it is a bit taller than stock. Maybe half an inch? GUTS offers standard size and tall seat foam; they also offer seat covers. I would say the GUTS seat foam is firm without being too hard like the ones on the KTMs.

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