Rivet master link
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Rivet master link
For the first time I bought a o-ring chain. In fact this is a T-ring chain. DID520VT.
The chain came with a rivet style master link
How should I install this? I do not have the 100$ too they recommend.
The chain came with a rivet style master link
How should I install this? I do not have the 100$ too they recommend.
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If you end up using a ball-peen hammer (or punch) to peen the pin ends over the side clip - buck the kickback on the chain (back the chain up) with something like a 2kg or larger hammer, small anvil, chunk of steel, or the equivalent. (Using an air-hammer does not require as much mass bucking the chain; as a manual approach to the peening operation)grump99 wrote:......I put a block of wood on the other side and let 'er rip. If you don't have an air hammer, a ball-peen hammer or round-nose punch will work too.
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You can buy a 'clipped' master link.
I thought any bike shop would have a handful of links sitting around for 520 chains, but last time I went looking for one..I ended up having to ORDER the darn thing.
Even a clipped master link will need a chainbreaker to get off. Well..that makes removal fairly simple anyway.
Please do use the backup idea. Do NOT be tempted by what's easy...like maybe using the sprocket as a holder. THAT's gonna break/bend/ruin somethin'!
Oh..a center punch works fine, too. The sort'a pointy thing used to make a 'dink' in metal to set a drill bit?
I thought any bike shop would have a handful of links sitting around for 520 chains, but last time I went looking for one..I ended up having to ORDER the darn thing.
Even a clipped master link will need a chainbreaker to get off. Well..that makes removal fairly simple anyway.
Please do use the backup idea. Do NOT be tempted by what's easy...like maybe using the sprocket as a holder. THAT's gonna break/bend/ruin somethin'!
Oh..a center punch works fine, too. The sort'a pointy thing used to make a 'dink' in metal to set a drill bit?
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This place sells a D.I.D. (I believe) clone chain rivet tool Part #35-0006
http://www.mikesxs.net/mikesxs-tools.ph ... ory_id=7.1
I have one but have yet to try it out
http://www.mikesxs.net/mikesxs-tools.ph ... ory_id=7.1
I have one but have yet to try it out
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I was surprised by this master link, also.
I laid the bike over so I could get the chain flat on the floor and beat the end of the pins flat with a center punch - backed the chain up on the floor with a piece of plate.
That chain is not coming off until it wears out, that's for sure.
I laid the bike over so I could get the chain flat on the floor and beat the end of the pins flat with a center punch - backed the chain up on the floor with a piece of plate.
That chain is not coming off until it wears out, that's for sure.
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Sorry to be dense...but, I don't unnerstan (a common occurrence):
Mr. IC said: 'Chain tool listed that I saw on this site said 'hollow' end pins. Most dirt motorcycle chain links are 'solid' solid end pins.'
Chain tools have hollow ends...so you can press the pin out through them 'natch..and motorcycle chain links are indeed solid. I don't get if the above is putting those two factoids together to show some logically arrived at conclusion that I obviously don't logically get...or...something else?
Please restate using smaller words?
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Never mind. I was looking at the wrong chain tool. You guys is talkin' bout the RIVETER tool...not a CHAIN breaking tool..
Got it.
If Mr. Wibben's would'a put the item number in with the link, I wouldn't have had to scroll around for 1/2 an hour looking for whatthehell he was talkin' about.....
Mr. IC said: 'Chain tool listed that I saw on this site said 'hollow' end pins. Most dirt motorcycle chain links are 'solid' solid end pins.'
Chain tools have hollow ends...so you can press the pin out through them 'natch..and motorcycle chain links are indeed solid. I don't get if the above is putting those two factoids together to show some logically arrived at conclusion that I obviously don't logically get...or...something else?
Please restate using smaller words?
**edit**
Never mind. I was looking at the wrong chain tool. You guys is talkin' bout the RIVETER tool...not a CHAIN breaking tool..
Got it.
If Mr. Wibben's would'a put the item number in with the link, I wouldn't have had to scroll around for 1/2 an hour looking for whatthehell he was talkin' about.....
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KDXQUEBEC - you get that chain riveted on your bike yet? Nothing wrong with KarlP's method and the 'plate' could be alot of things - a larger socket with a solid portion of the drive end up against the chain should work.
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I used a ballpeen hammer and a sledge as my anvil on my last chain
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Yes Idaho and thank you everybody for all the reply.
First I used a little socket to push the plate in the pins.
Then I used a ballpeen hammer and a big peice of metal on the other side to mushroom the soft material.
I will take a picture soon.
NB. How do you like working on your bike without remove the chain?? I hate that. I need practice to install the wheel with the chain on the bike.
Maintenance will be a little harder now
First I used a little socket to push the plate in the pins.
Then I used a ballpeen hammer and a big peice of metal on the other side to mushroom the soft material.
I will take a picture soon.
NB. How do you like working on your bike without remove the chain?? I hate that. I need practice to install the wheel with the chain on the bike.
Maintenance will be a little harder now
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Once I put on a new chain, I don't ever take the master link off, so it might as well be a one piece chain.
You could argue that some maintenance functions (removal of the swingarm for instance) are complicated without master link removal. It's not that big of a deal.
Probably the same hassle as removing/replacing/reusing the master link.
BTW...but on an o-ring chain, I would think peening the link pins would put too much pressure on the rings. With a clipped link you are supposed to make sure the side plates are spead apart after the clip is clipped.
You could argue that some maintenance functions (removal of the swingarm for instance) are complicated without master link removal. It's not that big of a deal.
Probably the same hassle as removing/replacing/reusing the master link.
BTW...but on an o-ring chain, I would think peening the link pins would put too much pressure on the rings. With a clipped link you are supposed to make sure the side plates are spead apart after the clip is clipped.
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Please do not laugh of my cherry red chain...made a mistake when I bought it.
BTW,Is it true that wd-40 is perfect to lubricate a o-ring chain?
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The master link seems to move freely with the same resistance as others links...canyncarvr wrote:but on an o-ring chain, I would think peening the link pins would put too much pressure on the rings.
Please do not laugh of my cherry red chain...made a mistake when I bought it.
BTW,Is it true that wd-40 is perfect to lubricate a o-ring chain?
Thx
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Re: 'Please do not laugh....'
You gotta be kidding, right? How can one NOT laugh? (sorry)
What happened to it!!
Re: 'Is it true that...'
Not that I know of...and I don't think anyone would say it was.
I use it to displace moisture after I wash the bike..but I use something else (Triflow) as a lubricant.
There isn't any 'lubricating' going on past the rings anyway. Well, if there IS, your chain isn't any good. So...anything applied is basically to help keep the rings (o-x-t..whatever) supple. Certainly, that it not attract dirt is a good thing. Triflow dries to an extent I don't have a problem with that.
..don't spray ANYthing on seconds before you ride.
You gotta be kidding, right? How can one NOT laugh? (sorry)
What happened to it!!
Re: 'Is it true that...'
Not that I know of...and I don't think anyone would say it was.
I use it to displace moisture after I wash the bike..but I use something else (Triflow) as a lubricant.
There isn't any 'lubricating' going on past the rings anyway. Well, if there IS, your chain isn't any good. So...anything applied is basically to help keep the rings (o-x-t..whatever) supple. Certainly, that it not attract dirt is a good thing. Triflow dries to an extent I don't have a problem with that.
..don't spray ANYthing on seconds before you ride.
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