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Rivet master link

Posted: 09:47 am Aug 01 2007
by kdxquebec
For the first time I bought a o-ring chain. In fact this is a T-ring chain. DID520VT.

The chain came with a rivet style master link

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How should I install this? I do not have the 100$ too they recommend.

Posted: 10:11 am Aug 01 2007
by grump99
I used an air hammer with a pointy metal tip (about $20 if you have a compressor). I put a block of wood on the other side and let 'er rip. If you don't have an air hammer, a ball-peen hammer or round-nose punch will work too. :mrgreen:

Posted: 11:45 am Aug 01 2007
by KDXSean
I put one of these on this spring

Ball peen hammer works good

Posted: 11:52 am Aug 01 2007
by IdahoCharley
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grump99 wrote:......I put a block of wood on the other side and let 'er rip. If you don't have an air hammer, a ball-peen hammer or round-nose punch will work too. :mrgreen:
If you end up using a ball-peen hammer (or punch) to peen the pin ends over the side clip - buck the kickback on the chain (back the chain up) with something like a 2kg or larger hammer, small anvil, chunk of steel, or the equivalent. (Using an air-hammer does not require as much mass bucking the chain; as a manual approach to the peening operation)

Posted: 04:35 pm Aug 01 2007
by Ondatrail
Can you buy a master link you can take off? or do you have a chain breaker anyway so it doesnt matter

Posted: 05:21 pm Aug 01 2007
by canyncarvr
You can buy a 'clipped' master link.

I thought any bike shop would have a handful of links sitting around for 520 chains, but last time I went looking for one..I ended up having to ORDER the darn thing.

Even a clipped master link will need a chainbreaker to get off. Well..that makes removal fairly simple anyway.

Please do use the backup idea. Do NOT be tempted by what's easy...like maybe using the sprocket as a holder. THAT's gonna break/bend/ruin somethin'!

Oh..a center punch works fine, too. The sort'a pointy thing used to make a 'dink' in metal to set a drill bit?

Posted: 09:29 am Aug 02 2007
by fuzzy
Would DEFINITELY recommend the above.

Posted: 10:43 pm Aug 02 2007
by Mr. Wibbens
This place sells a D.I.D. (I believe) clone chain rivet tool Part #35-0006
http://www.mikesxs.net/mikesxs-tools.ph ... ory_id=7.1

I have one but have yet to try it out

Posted: 10:22 am Aug 03 2007
by IdahoCharley
Chain tool listed that I saw on this site said 'hollow' end pins. Most dirt motorcycle chain links are 'solid' solid end pins.

Thanks for the link Mr. Wibbens - some good looking stuff in there. :grin:

Posted: 01:50 pm Aug 03 2007
by KarlP
I was surprised by this master link, also.
I laid the bike over so I could get the chain flat on the floor and beat the end of the pins flat with a center punch - backed the chain up on the floor with a piece of plate.
That chain is not coming off until it wears out, that's for sure.

Posted: 03:33 pm Aug 03 2007
by canyncarvr
Sorry to be dense...but, I don't unnerstan (a common occurrence):

Mr. IC said: 'Chain tool listed that I saw on this site said 'hollow' end pins. Most dirt motorcycle chain links are 'solid' solid end pins.'

Chain tools have hollow ends...so you can press the pin out through them 'natch..and motorcycle chain links are indeed solid. I don't get if the above is putting those two factoids together to show some logically arrived at conclusion that I obviously don't logically get...or...something else?

Please restate using smaller words?

:hmm:

**edit**

Never mind. I was looking at the wrong chain tool. You guys is talkin' bout the RIVETER tool...not a CHAIN breaking tool..

Got it.

If Mr. Wibben's would'a put the item number in with the link, I wouldn't have had to scroll around for 1/2 an hour looking for whatthehell he was talkin' about.....

Posted: 05:19 pm Aug 03 2007
by IdahoCharley
KDXQUEBEC - you get that chain riveted on your bike yet? Nothing wrong with KarlP's method and the 'plate' could be alot of things - a larger socket with a solid portion of the drive end up against the chain should work.

Posted: 05:23 pm Aug 03 2007
by Mr. Wibbens
I used a ballpeen hammer and a sledge as my anvil on my last chain

Posted: 11:13 am Aug 05 2007
by kdxquebec
Yes Idaho and thank you everybody for all the reply.

First I used a little socket to push the plate in the pins.

Then I used a ballpeen hammer and a big peice of metal on the other side to mushroom the soft material.

I will take a picture soon.

NB. How do you like working on your bike without remove the chain?? I hate that. I need practice to install the wheel with the chain on the bike.
Maintenance will be a little harder now :roll:

Posted: 12:01 pm Aug 06 2007
by canyncarvr
Once I put on a new chain, I don't ever take the master link off, so it might as well be a one piece chain.

You could argue that some maintenance functions (removal of the swingarm for instance) are complicated without master link removal. It's not that big of a deal.

Probably the same hassle as removing/replacing/reusing the master link.

BTW...but on an o-ring chain, I would think peening the link pins would put too much pressure on the rings. With a clipped link you are supposed to make sure the side plates are spead apart after the clip is clipped.

Posted: 03:51 pm Aug 09 2007
by kdxquebec
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canyncarvr wrote:but on an o-ring chain, I would think peening the link pins would put too much pressure on the rings.
The master link seems to move freely with the same resistance as others links...

Please do not laugh :mrgreen: of my cherry red chain...made a mistake when I bought it.

BTW,Is it true that wd-40 is perfect to lubricate a o-ring chain?

Thx

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Posted: 04:21 pm Aug 09 2007
by grump99
That sure is a purty chain :lol: .

Posted: 05:05 pm Aug 09 2007
by canyncarvr
Re: 'Please do not laugh....'

You gotta be kidding, right? How can one NOT laugh? (sorry)

What happened to it!! :shock:




Re: 'Is it true that...'

Not that I know of...and I don't think anyone would say it was.

I use it to displace moisture after I wash the bike..but I use something else (Triflow) as a lubricant.

There isn't any 'lubricating' going on past the rings anyway. Well, if there IS, your chain isn't any good. So...anything applied is basically to help keep the rings (o-x-t..whatever) supple. Certainly, that it not attract dirt is a good thing. Triflow dries to an extent I don't have a problem with that.

..don't spray ANYthing on seconds before you ride.

Posted: 05:51 pm Aug 09 2007
by Jeb
A little off topic - well, maybe not too much - but I'm interested in this Triflow stuff . . .

found the website. Which product do you use on the chain? Have you had success with the other products (degreasers, greases)?

Posted: 06:46 pm Aug 09 2007
by canyncarvr
I use this.

THIS would likely be a better choice. I've not seen it locally.

I have not used other of their products..don't know anything about the degreaser.