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How do you do an Endo?

Posted: 10:40 pm Jul 15 2007
by motorhed220
How do you do a controlled Endo, or stoppie? I have mastered mostly, the wheele, an am working on it while standing on the seat...But what about doin an Endo? any advice on how to master this?

Posted: 10:41 pm Jul 15 2007
by Indawoods
Grab a fist full of front brake... if you end up on the ground... you haven't mastered it.

Posted: 10:42 pm Jul 15 2007
by Rick
:naughty: Kids......

Posted: 10:43 pm Jul 15 2007
by motorhed220
That cant be all there is to it?

Posted: 10:44 pm Jul 15 2007
by motorhed220
Kids......
Hey, i wanna be a COOL rider eh! lol

Naw i was just wondering how to do some sweet tricks is all...I see others do it...so i wanna give er a shot!

Posted: 10:47 pm Jul 15 2007
by Rick
Just messin with ya. Dont ask me. The last time I did one of those, I think I peed a little.... :oops:

Posted: 10:49 pm Jul 15 2007
by motorhed220
hahahahahahahahaha....i hope it was an UNINTENTIONAL one? lol (the endo part not the peeing)

Posted: 10:52 pm Jul 15 2007
by Rick
Uh.....Both!

Posted: 11:36 pm Jul 15 2007
by skipro3
Stoppies are easy. Well, easier than a wheelie in my opinion. First learn how on pavement. Dirt and/or gravel is too loose and hard to determine the break point of the front wheel locking up. That's why you see so many street bikes doing it these days.

Accelerate to about mid rpm in 3rd gear. Pull in the clutch, grab the front brake and pull medium hard while shifting your weight to the front. Feel the rear wheel lift slightly off the ground. Let up slightly on the front brake and the rear wheel drops back to the ground. Do this a few times, getting familiar how much brake to apply to get the rear wheel lofted earlier in the braking process and while you still have good speed going. Pretty soon, you will be at the balance point and able to loft the rear wheel fairly quickly and then lightly use the brake to keep the balance and centrifugal energy in the stoppie position. Note of caution; when your speed gets pretty slow, it's easy to rotate the bike on the steering stem, causing the bike to pivot on the stem and the rear of the bike to fall to the left or right. If you do this correctly, you can do a stoppie, slow way down, pivot the bike's frame to the left and drop it down, making a turn in the process. Then accelerate again in the opposite direction you came from and do it again!!

Doing stoppies on pavement is extremely hard on the front tire. After a dozen or so, you will notice that the knobs start to tear off just like a rear tire would under hard acceleration. I guess the same principal is happening to the tire whether it's hard braking or hard acceleration.

Posted: 04:52 pm Jul 16 2007
by crazyaboutriding
ski got it pretty covered.

as far as an endo, (separate from a stoppie) you just grab as much front break as you can as high as a speed as you dare.

going over the bars, you have succeded. :mrgreen:

(in case you havent noticed, endos are when you go all the way over... stoppies are when you stop in style :supz: )

Posted: 09:13 pm Jul 16 2007
by thebleakness
I was going to point out the differences between a stoppie and a endo but thought it had been stated already, I guess not!

I found a good place to practice stoppies is in grass. Doesn't eat up the tires and won't tear you apart nearly as much if you do endo on asphalt. :wink:

Posted: 07:19 am Jul 17 2007
by krazyinski
buy Shane Watts Dirt Wize video.

Posted: 08:09 am Jul 17 2007
by Green Hornet
Ever hear the saying "Elbows Up, Rubber Down"

Stoppies,,I see how that will help getting over Rocks, Logs & Hills

Hope ya got good insurance

Posted: 08:23 am Jul 17 2007
by IdahoCharley
I think Stoppies look cool but at my age I would likely break my neck!!! Don't break yours!! :lol:

Posted: 11:42 am Jul 17 2007
by 2001kdx
Ski 100% covered it. Start small and you won't get hurt.

Posted: 12:17 am Jul 18 2007
by skipro3
To tell the truth, I stumbled upon the method by accident. I was working on bleeding my front brake and not having much success. Then I went over to a stainless steel braided front brake line and after bleeding, I gave it a test ride. Whoa Nellie!!! Instant stoppie!! Obviously the SS brake line is much more sensitive to braking pressure as the line does not distort like a stock line does.

So maybe the ability to safely control the braking pressure to pull off a stoppie is to have a top notch brake line first. I do recommend a SS line to anyone out there. I can precisely control my braking pressure using just one or two fingers. That really helps with arm pump on long downhills as well.

Posted: 07:27 am Jul 19 2007
by krazyinski
stoppie's are cool,but the point of doing them is to learn total control of the bike not for showing off. One should start with learning controlled front brake skids, mastering this will help accelerate learning stoppies. If you have a bicycle practice on it at home.