May I get some Help on fork seals
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May I get some Help on fork seals
What do you think I should do if I don't have the seal driver/puller/saver thing? I'm currently doing this job in my garage. I need to get the dust seal out without damaging it and get my oil seal out and replace it. Have you guys done it with basic tools? Any help is appreciated.
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Did it with basic tools, can lift dust seal out with screwdriver, take out circlip, take top nuts off and empty out oil, undo bolts at bottom and pull fork apart, can then fish the seal out.
When you put it back together you need to stop the shaft turning inside fork, it has a female hex head on it so just need to weld a suitable nut to a rod or something similar while you tighten up bottom bolts.
I always used to avoid the front forks, but once you have done it it's easy.
When you put it back together you need to stop the shaft turning inside fork, it has a female hex head on it so just need to weld a suitable nut to a rod or something similar while you tighten up bottom bolts.
I always used to avoid the front forks, but once you have done it it's easy.
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Have you tried cleaning them first using the 'film strip' method?
Re: '...and pull fork apart'
Sometimes they come apart without damaging the sliders (bushings), sometimes not. If you HAVE to ride THAT weekend and you do NOT have the bushings on hand, chances are you will NOT be riding that weekend.
For seal install, nothing beats the proper tool. PVC of different shapes and sizes has been used on shock seals that I know of...I do NOT know if there IS a suitable pipe size for a fork seal. Probably something close enough.
Your local dealer of any worth will have a fork seal tool (MotionPro 'fer instance) that will make the job a whole lot easier...and more likely to work when you're done.
Re: '...and pull fork apart'
Sometimes they come apart without damaging the sliders (bushings), sometimes not. If you HAVE to ride THAT weekend and you do NOT have the bushings on hand, chances are you will NOT be riding that weekend.
For seal install, nothing beats the proper tool. PVC of different shapes and sizes has been used on shock seals that I know of...I do NOT know if there IS a suitable pipe size for a fork seal. Probably something close enough.
Your local dealer of any worth will have a fork seal tool (MotionPro 'fer instance) that will make the job a whole lot easier...and more likely to work when you're done.
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Update:
I got the dust seal out, spring and cap out, oil is drained. Now my leg is sitting horizontal in the vice. I need some sort of a large allen wrench to do something, what else do I need to take off to pull that oil seal out, and put the new oil in?
Is there some sort of KYB fork rebuild instructional vidoe I could watch?
I got the dust seal out, spring and cap out, oil is drained. Now my leg is sitting horizontal in the vice. I need some sort of a large allen wrench to do something, what else do I need to take off to pull that oil seal out, and put the new oil in?
Is there some sort of KYB fork rebuild instructional vidoe I could watch?
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I thought it was the oem forks?strider80 wrote:Did you read the KYB fork instructions sticky in the USD section?
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edit: Maybe someone that knows what they are talking about and can read better than me can help him out.
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Please...someone tell me they think this is funny!!
I mean..human-etically speaking.
Written: 'Is there some sort of KYB fork rebuild instructional vidoe I could watch?'
His bike: 'Suspension - Stock forks...'
But...does he intend to refer to his bike? 'KYB' is more often used in reference to USD forks, but he doesn't have them...but the conventionals ARE made buy Kayaba.
Then: Did you read the KYB fork instructions sticky?' Now..that's a reference to USD forks. Maybe. The two DO come apart quite a lot alike. Maybe was a rec to read something similar that would be helpful.
'I thought it was the oem forks?' Oh No...but the quote refers to BOTH KYBs (RSU? USD?) AND to the KDX USD page! He means the author is working on oem forks...? Well, assumable.
'It is for KX KYBs.' Then it's NOT a link to something similar enough to help, but a link to and for the purpose of info on USDs?
But...for the 'It doesn't matter,' column, it doesn't matter!.
Overlook a couple of 180º things like, 'turn the fork upside down, put the spring on the ground ............' and the same procedure applies.
Oh..btw...the base valve that you, '..need some sort of a large allen wrench to do something..' to should have been (imo) loosened before anything came out of the tubes. It's a 14mm hex.
Cheers! It's been fun watching!
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OK...I am not merely trying to be a PITA..a smart one at that..but to make a point! Speech, conversation, what's written, what's meant are largely an afterthought..the intent SO intent (sic) to say SOMEthing!
Try harder!
...and that goes for me, too!
I mean..human-etically speaking.
Written: 'Is there some sort of KYB fork rebuild instructional vidoe I could watch?'
His bike: 'Suspension - Stock forks...'
But...does he intend to refer to his bike? 'KYB' is more often used in reference to USD forks, but he doesn't have them...but the conventionals ARE made buy Kayaba.
Then: Did you read the KYB fork instructions sticky?' Now..that's a reference to USD forks. Maybe. The two DO come apart quite a lot alike. Maybe was a rec to read something similar that would be helpful.
'I thought it was the oem forks?' Oh No...but the quote refers to BOTH KYBs (RSU? USD?) AND to the KDX USD page! He means the author is working on oem forks...? Well, assumable.
'It is for KX KYBs.' Then it's NOT a link to something similar enough to help, but a link to and for the purpose of info on USDs?
But...for the 'It doesn't matter,' column, it doesn't matter!.
Overlook a couple of 180º things like, 'turn the fork upside down, put the spring on the ground ............' and the same procedure applies.
Oh..btw...the base valve that you, '..need some sort of a large allen wrench to do something..' to should have been (imo) loosened before anything came out of the tubes. It's a 14mm hex.
Cheers! It's been fun watching!
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OK...I am not merely trying to be a PITA..a smart one at that..but to make a point! Speech, conversation, what's written, what's meant are largely an afterthought..the intent SO intent (sic) to say SOMEthing!
Try harder!
...and that goes for me, too!
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Ok, the only reason I said KYB is because they ARE KYB. I do not have the kx forks, I have the stockers. Anyway, thanks for the help, I did not mean to confuse everyone that read this thread, but strider80 e-mailed me some instructions that, even if they are for up-side down forks, look very similar to what I have apart in my garage.
Special thanks to strider for the e-mail, I have the KAWI factory service manual and it goes through an entire fork dissassemble in 1 page. It is a bit tough to fread, especially when they say " insert kawasaki part #587676".
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Special thanks to strider for the e-mail, I have the KAWI factory service manual and it goes through an entire fork dissassemble in 1 page. It is a bit tough to fread, especially when they say " insert kawasaki part #587676".
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