cooling fan?

alistair · Post by **alistair** » 04:05 pm Jan 14 2007

i was wondering if any one had made a cooling fan for there kdx,

cuz sum of our trails are slippery clay hills and its WOT in second and goin hardly no where.

i read in a mag ages ago someone made one out of a a computer cooling fan. is there a power source you could hook in to saftely?

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 04:47 pm Jan 14 2007

'A' power source?

There is only one on the KDX..well, excepting the SR models anyway. You have an SR..or no? Don't the SRs have batteries and things?

Keep in mind that the KDX power (non-SR) is AC, not DC.

I haven't tried one, don't need to. The 200 doesn't have the cooling problems the 220 commonly does.

Still..with no plenum/shroud, a fan is going to be marginally useful, I'd think. I don't now what a one-each 'computer fan' (usually 12VDC) is going to do with AC. You could put together a simple rectifier circuit I 'spose. It would be a lot simpler with a battery setup. When you weren't charging enough, the battery would fill the gap.

I don't know the 'overseas' models at all. Seems KayD has a 'real' 200, NOT an SR.

Maybe you should be the guinea pig! Let us know how it works out!!

alistair · Post by **alistair** » 10:18 pm Jan 14 2007

mines not a sr (as far as i know anyway.) it was my dads bike that got hot and had coolant coming out the over flow.... i dont think i have the knowledge to build these things, im am 15...

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 11:57 pm Jan 14 2007

Then there's room for learnin'!!!

There are other things that will make coolant come out past the cap besides heat.

..like a bad cap. It's easier to just replace the thing than worry about What is the strength of the spring on the bobbin? Is the dent in the lower gasket too much of dent? And the top gasket? Are the clips bent?

Replace it. See what happens.

An overheating bike is supposed to put coolant in the overflow bottle. Some people take those off (I haven't..did..put it back on for a reason). Maybe your bikes are missing them?

MAYbe the rads weren't full in the first place. Do you check them before each ride? You should.

You might try loosening the 8mm (I think it is) bolt at the top of the cylinder..on the spout the rad hose fits on? Unscrew it a tad until coolant comes out. That is a bleed fitting that should have been bled when the bike was first filled with coolant. You can trap air in that spot..and that will make your bike run hotter than if there is COOLANT there.

No reason for a 200 to spit under normal circumstances. There will always be an extended uphill that will get things gurgling though....

Green Hornet · Post by **Green Hornet** » 12:47 pm Jan 15 2007

I tap ALL THE HOSES with the cap off & the bike running to get those Bubbas out of the horses. Like Carver said, make sure your screw is loose on your head to get the Bubbas out. Then tighten the screw on your head. You don't want someone with a screw loose riden the bike

alistair · Post by **alistair** » 02:42 pm Jan 15 2007

thanks for the info, we uusally cheak before each ride, and the overflow bottle had fulled it was half full anyway...

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » 05:54 pm Jan 15 2007

My Gnarly pipe was jammed up against the Water pump hose
(Bought the KDX used) it was smashing the hose in half and worn a divot into it.
All I had to do is Shorten the new hose by an inch and it misses the pipe now.
Check it out if you have an aftermarket pipe going on.

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 07:13 pm Jan 15 2007

FmF has been known to leave out the 'dent' they usually put in their pipes to clear that hose.

Even so, if pipe alignment isn't right (and that can be so from the factory), that hose can be squished.

With the pipe properly aligned...it's quite a ways from that hose.

krazyinski · Post by **krazyinski** » 08:27 am Jan 16 2007

FMF must be hand made seems each one is different.

alistair · Post by **alistair** » 02:08 pm Jan 16 2007

whilch pipe are you talking about?

we have pro circuit platnem 2's on our bikes....

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 01:22 am Jan 17 2007

Oldschool wrote:My Gnarly pipe was jammed up against the Water pump hose
(Bought the KDX used) it was smashing the hose in half and worn a divot into it.

We be talking about FmF pipes in this case.

PCs generally fit the way they are supposed to...although the PII is kind of an odd choice for the 200.

Heck...for the 220, for that matter.

Whatever floats your boat!!

alistair · Post by **alistair** » 05:11 pm Jan 17 2007

we got it chaep with a deal for the bikes,whys it a odd choice if you dont mind me askin?

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 06:31 pm Jan 17 2007

Just my opinion.

The 220 generally doesn't need help on the bottom-end of things, it DOES need all the help in can get on the top! The PII doesn't help there.

The 200 CAN be made to run just fine on the bottom-end of things (takes some parts), and more on top is just more fun! The PII wouldn't help there, either.

That being my point of view has nothing to do with anyone else's POV being different. They are certainly welcome to their own. I don't ride their bikes!

alistair · Post by **alistair** » 06:39 pm Jan 17 2007

so is the pii a midrange pipe?

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 07:01 pm Jan 17 2007

It is my understanding the PC Platinum is akin to the FmF rev profile and the PC PlatinumII is akin to the FmF torque profile.

Some advertising for the PC Platinum says it's 'more everywhere' and that it makes EVERYthing better. Probably not. Actually from the ad copy it sounds like an FmF Fatty.

Ha! Take this:

ProCircuit wrote:
From its very beginnings, the Platinum Pipe has been entirely devoted to redefining the sports riding experience. The Platinum Pipe continues to take this dedication to new levels each year. The Platinum Pipe has the same shaped cone sections as the popular Works Pipe, but utilizes plating on the body to protect from everyday wear and tear of riding trails, tracks, or the open desert. Precision in design and engineering makes even the smallest details into a work of art. Passion radiates from every element of its sculpted surface, its individual power gains and its brilliant unsurpassed performance. The Platinum Pipe is a unique fusion of power, elegance and utility that pushes the boundaries of the sports riding pleasure.

What a load of BS!!! 'Brilliant, unsurpassed performance!!' 'sculpted surface...'

WHAT the heck does ANY of that crap MEAN!!??

Whatever it means...it means it to a NEW LEVEL this year!!!

What a crock...........

For the PII?

This is the secret behind the Platinum 2 Pipe’s brilliant amalgamation of intelligence, power and aesthetics.

Amalgamation? Kin ah have summa that in the gallon size?

How incredibly pathetic.

Well...at least for the PII they mention things like 'increased low-end and mid-range horsepower and torque.' THAT gives you a CLUE what it MIGHT do....

tim · Post by **tim** » 07:06 pm Jan 17 2007

Amalgam
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Amalgamation, meaning to combine or unite into one form, has several uses:

saddletramp · Post by **saddletramp** » 07:49 pm Jan 17 2007

I have the p.c.11 and it is HUGE it is over 14" around the fatest part. I have read that the FMF torque is 11" and the rev is 14". You would think that the two torque profiled pipes would be about the same size. Maybe that is part of the "secret".

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 11:37 pm Jan 17 2007

You are sure that is the PCII and not the PC?

In their catalog pics (which don't mean nuthin') the PC looks bigger than the PCII.

2T-wise..basically a 'rev' pipe will be 'bigger' than a 'torque' pipe.

The SPEED of the cone change matters..but, like I said...basically....

Why does 'basically' look completely wrong? I even checked it with google.

I have a dictionary...but I don't wanna look it up!!

I think I need a(nother) magurita!! Marguaita? Margyoourita?

Alcohol?

Help!! I've fallen.....

But I DO know what an amalgamation is. I've got a buttload of that in my teeth!!

saddletramp · Post by **saddletramp** » 11:58 pm Jan 17 2007

Well, I am sure that it says platinum 2 on the side of the pipe (not an aburation) aberashen? Anyways, I wonder if Allistairs is the same circumference? Cheers!

quailchaser · Post by **quailchaser** » 12:08 am Jan 18 2007

Green Hornet wrote:...your screw is loose on your head. You don't want someone with a screw loose riden the bike.

My wife says this exact thing to me all the time.

I agree CC...PC's descriptions read like political campains...only without the false promises.

I liked the PCII on the 220...then again, it spent most of it's time chasing the kid, stop and go race marking, or on tight ST. I also never tried the rev pipe, so I have no comparison. If I remember correctly, the PCII is similiar in size and shape to the FMF Woods pipe. I would suspect that if the pipe in question is in fact 14"+ around and in fact a PC pipe, that it is not the PCII.

In FMF's defense, the Gnarly on the KX fits perfect. Slides right on without any effort. Well, it does now any way...after I smashed it up against the frame in a little get off.

KDXRIDER.NET

KDXRIDER.NET

cooling fan?

cooling fan?