my stock handlebar dampers are shot

Got questions? We got answers....

my stock handlebar dampers are shot

Postby Sky.A » 10:58 am Jan 07 2007

is there any aftermarket dampers ? urathane maybe? or any other suggestions
Kauai Boy 04 kdx 200
Sky.A
Member
 
Posts: 63
Joined: 12:09 am Jun 26 2006
Location: Kauai, Hawaii
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Postby canyncarvr » 03:00 pm Jan 07 2007

Why do you think they are 'shot'?

Mine are seven years old..work fine.

There are other choices. Scotts makes a set. IMO they don't FIT, but they make a set. They are too small, allow the pedestals to tighten against the clamp...so they don't DO anything. I have a set lying around (I think) if you want 'em.

I've looked only a little for suitable auto substitutes. Didn't find any that did NOT need to be 'reformed' some.

But..what's the problem?

Consider the source
Using a perceived level of knowledge to boost my self worth.
Non impediti ratione cogitationis

bike profile: !clicky!
User avatar
canyncarvr
Gold Member
Gold Member
 
Posts: 6941
Images: 26
Joined: 01:07 pm Nov 05 2004
Location: The Mythical State of Jefferson
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times

Postby alistair » 05:35 pm Jan 07 2007

you can get alloy ones similar to this

http://mrmotorcycles.co.nz/store/produc ... cts_id=156

i think that should work hopefully ,thats a local new zealand dealer
Alistair
alistair
Member
 
Posts: 166
Joined: 04:44 pm Apr 17 2006
Location: new zealand
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Postby quailchaser » 08:30 pm Jan 07 2007

Scott's and Applied make Kawi replacement cones. They are some sort of ___prene or ___thane (as in...not rubber or alum :lol: ) They are around $21, if I remember correctly.
Robb
*Sold* but not forgotten '03 KDX220R
'02 KX250
PW80 for the Gman
XR50R with Zuk yellow plastic and pink starlet stikers...soon to be Katiebugs ride.
AMA
Off Camber M/C
BRC
AZOHVC
User avatar
quailchaser
Supporting Member II
Supporting Member II
 
Posts: 485
Joined: 06:19 pm Feb 24 2005
Location: Phx, AZ
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Postby Sky.A » 01:04 am Jan 08 2007

my left bar cone is wriggling around tried to tighten but the cone is over deterioted and has play on that side
Kauai Boy 04 kdx 200
Sky.A
Member
 
Posts: 63
Joined: 12:09 am Jun 26 2006
Location: Kauai, Hawaii
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Postby krazyinski » 08:57 am Jan 08 2007

I replace mine every couple of years and the wear is noticeable comparing old to new. new is firm old is squishy. KX, KDX cones are same.
2000 KDX220 FRP Ported,plated cylinder,milled head, FRP bored carb, V force 3 reeds, FMF desert pipe, 10oz FWW, 98 KX forks and oem shock re valved by Pro Action, hyd clutch, fastway pegs, tall seat foam, gripper cover, 29" CRhigh mini bars, Cycra brush gaurds.
User avatar
krazyinski
Member
 
Posts: 461
Joined: 12:26 pm Mar 10 2006
Location: San Antonio Texas
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times

Postby Green Hornet » 10:37 am Jan 08 2007

"Growing Old is Mandatory, Growing Up is Optional"
2008 KLX450R
2008 DRZ400SM
2005 KDX 220R
1985 KDX 200A3
2005 KLX 125L (SONS)
2003 KTM 50SX Pro Jr
B Senior # 254/0092

http://sponsorhouse.loopd.com/Members/R ... fault.aspx
Thanks to my 2008 Sponsers:
Dunlop, SteelMX, Amsoil, Simpson, Pro Works Racing, Pro Moto Billet, SLAP Energy,Boyesen, Rhino Stands, SixSixOne/SunLine Moto for your support.
John W Read Jr
Green Hornet
Supporting Member II
Supporting Member II
 
Posts: 1455
Joined: 06:54 pm Aug 08 2005
Location: Orange County-New York
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time

Postby canyncarvr » 12:15 pm Jan 08 2007

Re: 'Scotts has them

Those are the cones I got that did not fit...too small.

QC: Do you know if Applied and Scotts units are the same?

I'd be all for some new cones myself...but NOT the aftermarket pieces I've seen.

I ran the Scotts cones for 1/2 a ride. Went BACK to the truck to change them out because they SUCKED! More buzz than NON-bushed bars.

Sky: Deteriorated on an '04? Wow. Must be all the UV over there in the islands...too much sun!!!

Consider the source
Using a perceived level of knowledge to boost my self worth.
Non impediti ratione cogitationis

bike profile: !clicky!
User avatar
canyncarvr
Gold Member
Gold Member
 
Posts: 6941
Images: 26
Joined: 01:07 pm Nov 05 2004
Location: The Mythical State of Jefferson
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times

Postby Green Hornet » 12:53 pm Jan 08 2007

>|<>QBB<
canyncarvr wrote:Re: 'Scotts has them

Those are the cones I got that did not fit...too small.


GREAT I have them sitting on my Bureau. I thought they looked tiny. ARGHHH
"Growing Old is Mandatory, Growing Up is Optional"
2008 KLX450R
2008 DRZ400SM
2005 KDX 220R
1985 KDX 200A3
2005 KLX 125L (SONS)
2003 KTM 50SX Pro Jr
B Senior # 254/0092

http://sponsorhouse.loopd.com/Members/R ... fault.aspx
Thanks to my 2008 Sponsers:
Dunlop, SteelMX, Amsoil, Simpson, Pro Works Racing, Pro Moto Billet, SLAP Energy,Boyesen, Rhino Stands, SixSixOne/SunLine Moto for your support.
John W Read Jr
Green Hornet
Supporting Member II
Supporting Member II
 
Posts: 1455
Joined: 06:54 pm Aug 08 2005
Location: Orange County-New York
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time

Postby Indawoods » 01:01 pm Jan 08 2007

That's what she said! :mrgreen:
*** Administrator //***
****'95 KDX 200/****

"People ate cows a thousand years ago for the same reason we eat them now. Cause they are easy to catch.We're not savages,we're´╗┐ just lazy. A cheetah could taste like chocolate heroin. But will never know. Those bastards are fast!!! "
User avatar
Indawoods
Creator and Founder
Creator and Founder
 
Posts: 9951
Joined: 09:59 am Jun 12 2003
Location: Midwest
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 18 times

Postby Sky.A » 03:03 pm Jan 08 2007

No its not the sun that wore um out. its crashing in these tight Hawaiian trails that did the job on my damper LOL
Kauai Boy 04 kdx 200
Sky.A
Member
 
Posts: 63
Joined: 12:09 am Jun 26 2006
Location: Kauai, Hawaii
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Postby Green Hornet » 03:51 pm Jan 08 2007

>|<>QBB<
Indawoods wrote:That's what she said! :mrgreen:


Hey Vince BITE ME, BIG BOY :butthead: :grin:
"Growing Old is Mandatory, Growing Up is Optional"
2008 KLX450R
2008 DRZ400SM
2005 KDX 220R
1985 KDX 200A3
2005 KLX 125L (SONS)
2003 KTM 50SX Pro Jr
B Senior # 254/0092

http://sponsorhouse.loopd.com/Members/R ... fault.aspx
Thanks to my 2008 Sponsers:
Dunlop, SteelMX, Amsoil, Simpson, Pro Works Racing, Pro Moto Billet, SLAP Energy,Boyesen, Rhino Stands, SixSixOne/SunLine Moto for your support.
John W Read Jr
Green Hornet
Supporting Member II
Supporting Member II
 
Posts: 1455
Joined: 06:54 pm Aug 08 2005
Location: Orange County-New York
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time

Postby Kawinj » 06:30 pm Jan 08 2007

Try the Applied CR cones. They are denser, more of a nylon composite, have less squish factor and fit the stock set-up.
"The name's Francis Soyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you."
Kawinj
Supporting Member II
Supporting Member II
 
Posts: 47
Joined: 07:51 am Feb 23 2006
Location: New Jersey -land of Bruce and overpriced real estate.
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Postby quailchaser » 06:58 pm Jan 08 2007

>|<>QBB<
canyncarvr wrote:
QC: Do you know if Applied and Scotts units are the same?



I have the ones Scott's sent with the Oversized bar mount kit when I ordered my damper. I had no issues on my KX.

I'd have to agree with Kawinj if the Scott's Kaw cones were too small. The Honda Cones will work fine. I put the Tag oversized honda bar mounts on the KDX with the OEM cones and it worked fine.

As far as whether the cones are the same from Scott's and Applied...your guess is as good as mine...but they look similiar in that they are cone shaped and made out of some sort of ___prene or ___thane. :lol: I've never compared them side by side.
Robb
*Sold* but not forgotten '03 KDX220R
'02 KX250
PW80 for the Gman
XR50R with Zuk yellow plastic and pink starlet stikers...soon to be Katiebugs ride.
AMA
Off Camber M/C
BRC
AZOHVC
User avatar
quailchaser
Supporting Member II
Supporting Member II
 
Posts: 485
Joined: 06:19 pm Feb 24 2005
Location: Phx, AZ
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Postby z1nonlyone » 10:45 pm Apr 17 2007

Hi, this is a great subject, I have a stock 05 220 and I notice that my "bars" appear bent after a monor tip over. (Daughters bike). I have Renthal "Twin Taper" bars and I know that they do not get bent. I loosen up the oversize mounts, (stock mounts and bars did the same thing) and I can force the bar back into position. I tighten up the mounts again and away I go. I am not feeling any "cushioning" or allowable movement in the bars at all. Am I overtightening them?? Are my tappered rubber cushions shot? Any good replacement ones?

Thanks,

Chris
z1nonlyone
Member
 
Posts: 8
Joined: 11:02 pm Jan 08 2007
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Postby mattR » 07:18 am Apr 18 2007

>|<>QBB<



I have had a set of these in for at least 3 years. Didn't notice any more vibration and the bars don't move like they did with the OEM cones.
97 KDX 220
User avatar
mattR
Member
 
Posts: 109
Joined: 10:23 am Nov 13 2004
Location: MA
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Ended up getting the scotts also

Postby Sky.A » 11:52 pm Apr 18 2007

they look small but as you tighten them up they snug up just fine .And i love um now all I gotta do is let my ankle heal up so I can go ridding again
Kauai Boy 04 kdx 200
Sky.A
Member
 
Posts: 63
Joined: 12:09 am Jun 26 2006
Location: Kauai, Hawaii
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Postby z1nonlyone » 11:59 pm Apr 18 2007

thanks guys for the info! I just ordered a set and hope they work! I also sent my carb to RB Designs for his magic,,,I have heard that works also!

Chris
z1nonlyone
Member
 
Posts: 8
Joined: 11:02 pm Jan 08 2007
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time


Return to KDX General Q&A

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 4 guests