KIPS totaled! Where to buy new parts?

vinny · Post by **vinny** » 12:46 am Jan 06 2007

I just pulled the head off my bike and WOW! The kips setup is completely toast. All three valves are broken in 2 or 3 pieces and look as though they have been that way a while. Even the shaft has wear. Could this have caused any other unseen damage? Who has the best prices on new kips parts? Does anyone have a complete kips rebuild kit they sell?

Thanks
Vinny

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 03:04 am Jan 06 2007

I've not seen a 'complete kit'. 1. The parts are spendy, 2. It's not often (never that I know of) that such a thing is required.

I have bought some KIPS parts, usually from the local dealer. By the time I add in shipping from some place on the web, the local dealer has been cheaper.

I've gotten some parts from Fredette when other items were being shipped.

Other common OEM dealers on the web (RonAyers and BikeBandit) don't generally have stellar prices. Well, unless 'stellar' means 'way out there'.

What year?

Odd that so many parts would be broken. 'All three' meaning the two subport drums and the main valve? The drums don't often break..the activating shafts strip commonly on some of the older bikes.

So...no joy from this quarter. I don't have any happy info for 'ya.

Of course...you know what this means? If your KIPS hasn't been working, you're in for a treat when you get it fixed!

It's going to run a WHOLE lot differently!!

Something to look forward to besides JUST spending money!

Oh..other damage..

If anything broke in the governor shaft coming out of the RH case, pieces can cause mortal damage to the clutch and transmission. Subport drums and rods that are stripped will just sit there doing nothing. If the drum(s) physically broke, they will likely get blown into the pipe.

You're in new territory from anything I've experienced, seen or heard about.

Good luck!

Post by **Mr. Wibbens** » 08:10 am Jan 06 2007

lets see some pics

vinny · Post by **vinny** » 02:18 pm Jan 06 2007

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

$284.95 For all that crap! Oh well, I guess you pay to play. Should be in by Friday.

Can the cylinder be bored or does it have to be sleeved if need be?

Oh yeah the bikes a 93 that I decided to resto/mod. I got the bike pretty cheap but now am in too deep to turn back.

Vinny

m0rie · Post by **m0rie** » 03:23 pm Jan 06 2007

When you put in the new kips valves check to see if the bore in the cylinder that the valves ride in is still fitting the valves properly. When they get carboned up they tend to strip and then distort the bore walls around them.

vinny · Post by **vinny** » 04:14 pm Jan 06 2007

If there is wear is it repairable?

m0rie · Post by **m0rie** » 05:24 pm Jan 06 2007

It can be depending on how much damage there is.

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 02:53 pm Jan 07 2007

Re: 'Ouch'

Surely not every part is broken!

Re: 'bored/sleeved'

This is a plated cylinder I presume?

Boring/replating is generally considered preferable to sleeving.

Post by **Mr. Wibbens** » 03:20 pm Jan 07 2007

I believe if you sleeve the kips is not used

or maybe I'm thinking of the 240 big bore kit?

vinny · Post by **vinny** » 06:14 pm Jan 07 2007

I went on ahead and ordered a new cylinder from Ron Ayers. I had been looking at Bike Bandit but they wanted $462 for a new one were as Ron wanted $381. By the time I sent the cylinder somewere had it inspected and replated/repaired I would have had well more than half that invested in a used cylinder. Did I do wrong? I assume sence Ron Ayers is listed under the links section he is trust worthy and has good parts.

Vinny

Post by **Indawoods** » 06:25 pm Jan 07 2007

You did good Vinny....

Post by **Mr. Wibbens** » 07:19 pm Jan 07 2007

It's only money

Post by **Indawoods** » 07:24 pm Jan 07 2007

Didn't cost as much as your leather crotchless outfit Wibs!

quailchaser · Post by **quailchaser** » 08:27 pm Jan 07 2007

Indawoods wrote:Didn't cost as much as your leather crotchless outfit Wibs!

Please...no photos.

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 11:07 pm Jan 07 2007

Are 'E' bikes alpha designated like the 'H' models?

Not a 'must', but keep in mind that putting a 'D' piston in an 'A' cylinder isn't what you want to do unless you make sure the clearances are OK.

'Crotchless leather outfit'!!!

I'm gonna report that to the moderator!!

Oh.......wait.........

Post by **Mr. Wibbens** » 11:28 pm Jan 07 2007

Indawoods wrote:Didn't cost as much as your leather crotchless outfit Wibs!

How'd you find out about that??

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 12:22 am Jan 08 2007

Inda has one?

Nah!!! He must just KNOW someone what does!

Jeb · Post by **Jeb** » 06:15 am Jan 08 2007

From KIPS to crotchless leather, this site covers it all . . .

radonc73 · Post by **radonc73** » 06:27 am Jan 08 2007

Jeb wrote:From KIPS to crotchless leather, this site covers it all . . .

Not always in that order, wait until Marti Gras.

vinny · Post by **vinny** » 08:54 am Jan 08 2007

What do you mean Alpha designated? Does that mean more money?

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KIPS totaled! Where to buy new parts?

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