I've seen on a post that some of you are not using the clutch when shifting
isn't that going to kill the gearbox?
shifting with or without using the clutch?
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shifting with or without using the clutch?
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I've used mine since I was 7 years old.... not about to change now.
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I've always been surprized when this topic comes up. Seems like alot of people never use the clutch except for taking off. I've talked with many experienced riders who only claim to use the clutch for take-off, feathering the power on a uphill, and/ or fanning it coming out of a tight curve. Otherwise they claim to upshift and downshift without the engaging the clutch. Also they normally claim no ill consequences.
I always use the clutch for upshifting and downshifting - well at least 99.5% of the time. There may be a time or two a year where I climbing something that is very steep (or unexpected) and I'll downshift without the clutch prior to the motor stalling but it is more of a survival thing.
I'am like Indawoods - been using it too long to change my technique. Even if I have poor technique.
I always use the clutch for upshifting and downshifting - well at least 99.5% of the time. There may be a time or two a year where I climbing something that is very steep (or unexpected) and I'll downshift without the clutch prior to the motor stalling but it is more of a survival thing.
I'am like Indawoods - been using it too long to change my technique. Even if I have poor technique.
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It's not really needed for shifting on a seqential (bike) trans. It will be needed to shift under power (WOT "Power Shift"). The trans in a car is a different story....
Some racing (shifter) karts just have a switch to short the spark momentarily to shift under full power w/o clutch. F-1 and ferrari paddle type sequential tranmisions work this way as well.
Some racing (shifter) karts just have a switch to short the spark momentarily to shift under full power w/o clutch. F-1 and ferrari paddle type sequential tranmisions work this way as well.
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That's me!I've always been surprized when this topic comes up. Seems like alot of people never use the clutch except for taking off. I've talked with many experienced riders who only claim to use the clutch for take-off, feathering the power on a uphill, and/ or fanning it coming out of a tight curve.
No....not the 'experienced rider' part...the 'don't use the clutch much' part.
Like Fuzzy said, in a constant-mesh trans I don't see that it matters. That doesn't mean I jump up and down on the shift lever to force anything. I generally let off the throttle enough to unload the trans (upshifting) and don't downshift with the back wheel driving the transmission.
I probably wouldn't do that on a 4-stroke..a lot more torque involved. As long as you're paying attention to torque it would still be OK.
Besides, I use Valvoline in my gearbox..and it's the choice of champeens. It can take it.
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