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Broken mystery pin floating in transmission

Posted: 10:21 pm Jun 05 2006
by crazyaboutriding
My 2000 KDX 200 has had a problem shifting from time to time since I bought it 3 monthes ago. Tonight my Dad and I removed the engine and spit the cases to find this pin wedged under the shift drum. There is no other damage and We can not find where the pin came from. I have a factory service manual and there is no pictrue of anything in the clutch or transmission Expoded Viewes that resembles this broken pin. Any one that could help? I sure would appricate it!!

i couldn't find out how to put the pic on here so it is under my gallery photos (14yearoldrider). please take a look at it and see if you have any idea what it is. thanks!!! :grin: [/img]

Posted: 10:46 am Jun 06 2006
by KDXer
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A bigger, better pic would be good. :wink:

Posted: 12:33 pm Jun 06 2006
by canyncarvr
I don't get the scale on the pic...

But, the most likely part broken and floating around the clutch is the KIPS actuator.

It's OK?

BTW...post pics in thread:

[img]pic%20address[/img]

If the pic is in your gallery, right click on the pic (not the thumbnail..the actual picture) and get the pic address from 'Properties', copy/past into the above format.

In your case, the pic addy is:

http://kdxrider.net/forums/modules/albu ... G_1111.jpg

Posted: 02:24 pm Jun 06 2006
by Green Hornet

Posted: 02:55 pm Jun 06 2006
by Indawoods
That's it alright! :?

Posted: 03:27 pm Jun 06 2006
by Green Hornet
Just think, you SPLIT the case for nothing. Well, not for nothing. Now since your KIPS WAS NOT WORKING AT ALL, you are going to be surprised at how she runs now. The part in question is $7, but now you will need the case gasket, rt. engine gasket, clutch gasket & waterpump gasket. Go through Rocky Mountain and get the COMETIC Kit, much cheaper than Kawasaki and you get a sticker. Yeaeeeeeh STICKERS :rolleyes:

Posted: 03:29 pm Jun 06 2006
by canyncarvr
Well...'thar 'ya go.

BTW...the reason that piece broke: The service procedure specifically cautions that the KIPS shaft must be supported when the nut on top (LHT btw) is wrenched.

When you don't support the shaft on the flat machined into it (expressly for that purpose), you break it.

Sometimes the pieces get safely tucked away. Sometimes they destroy the entire engine. That is not an exaggeration.

You are very lucky!

BTW...when the KIPS gets fixed (it has not been working maybe since you BOUGHT the thing), YOU are in for a BIG surprise!!

YeHaW!!!

BTW....you said 'split the cases'. Really? You don't perchance mean 'took the covers off'?

Yeah...I read the 'shift drum' part.....

Posted: 05:30 pm Jun 06 2006
by crazyaboutriding
thank you guyes SOOOOOOOO mutch!!! sorry i didn't say the scale.

so, when i go to buy a new one, will i just call it the KIPS actuator or something like that?

where about is it? we have a service manual we bought, but can't find where it goes.

ya, that explains the reason it didn't have that mutch of a difference when i rode my cousin's '06 yz 125. it didn't really do mutch to the inside, the gears seem to be in very good shape.

thanks again. i really appreciate it. :grin: :grin: i was afraid a gear or something was busted and i would have to spend like 500$ on it!!! :shock:

Posted: 06:18 pm Jun 06 2006
by Indawoods
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This is the offender... check out other missing parts. Like the allen screws that held it in place. But it looks like it broke off so chances are that the rest is still bolted to the end of the actuating shaft.

Order Kawasaki part #13236-1260

Posted: 06:36 pm Jun 06 2006
by canyncarvr
Wow. They come in RED??

This parts diagram is available @ buykawasaki.com.

Put in model/year/displacement, chose 'parts diagram'.


No scale to say...next time maybe put a penny next to it? (or whatever fits with the pic)

Posted: 07:37 pm Jun 06 2006
by grump99
My buddy had the same exact failure in his kdx ('95). It took a big part of the clutch basket with it when it went :sad: . The good news for you is that the part is fairly cheap and easy to replace. Just remember to use loc-tite on the allen screws. Good luck!

Posted: 07:43 pm Jun 06 2006
by Green Hornet
14yrold. Take a look at my KIPS Gallery. You will see what happens when you wrench it w/o support. NO MENTION in the manuel about supporting it either

Posted: 09:23 pm Jun 06 2006
by crazyaboutriding
thank you all so mutch again. this sight is awsome. if i didn't know about it, i would have forgoten about the piece, never found where to put it in, and thus never having it and it not running as good as it will.

besides that, i still can't believe it. all this work...

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for just this!!!

Image :shock: :shock: :shock:

seems kinda' sad...

Posted: 09:25 pm Jun 06 2006
by crazyaboutriding
ok, why didn't the pics work???!!! :mad: :mad:

Posted: 09:43 pm Jun 06 2006
by Indawoods
You had disable html and bbcode on your post options.

Posted: 07:13 am Jun 07 2006
by Green Hornet
You are going to by a NEW PIECE RIGHT!!!!????????
DO NOT try to piece together

Posted: 04:22 pm Jun 22 2006
by crazyaboutriding
hey, it's been a while, but finaly got all the gaskets and the part and the bike put back together. the thing runs like a champ. also i got everything cleaned up and looking good. thanks to everyone that helped me. it sure has a lot more bottom end!!!