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Postby shopman » 05:23 pm Jun 16 2018

who's running tubliss system , what tires and what kind or air pressure are you running????????????

I just installed front and back put Shinko 216 mx fatty on the front and Shinko 525s Cheater on the back unfortunately I have to wait a couple weeks before I can get up north to try it just looking to see what others are experiencing????????

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Re: Tubliss System

Postby ericr » 01:38 am Jun 17 2018

I'm running the same tires - 90/100 fatty front and 110/100 rear. I'm running in a lot of rocks and roots, and at 210 lbs, I run 11-12 psi with Tubliss front and rear. If it wasn't for the rocks, I'd run less.
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Postby bufftester » 10:09 pm Jun 18 2018

Running Tubliss rear with a Dunlop Geomax MX52 currently at 11-12 psi riding a mix of Pacific NW trails/desert/alpine
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Postby thirdgenlxi » 01:22 am Jun 19 2018

Running the same tires with Tubliss on mine..... usually run about 5-6 in the rear and about 8 in the front. Been running the Tubliss for almost 2 years now.... works great and I love it! Every once in awhile I get a slow leak and just have to pop the tire down off the bead, soak it with soapy water and re-inflate and all is well

The traction you get running Tubliss and low pressure is awesome!! Here's one example.... from a race the end of last year. That was at least 21 bikes I just passed in less than a minute. And I was on a half worn out rear tire..... I think it was an IRC VE33 Enduro. Camera flattens it out.... this was steeper and slipperier than it appears, lol

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Postby SS109 » 04:16 pm Jun 21 2018

I have been running Tubliss for 7 years now. Still have a Gen I that has been on several bikes now.

Currently running Goldentyre Fatty up front at 12psi. Other fronts I have run psi from 12 down to as low as 7. It just depends on what each tire likes. Same applies to rear tires as well. You just gotta experiment with each tire to find what it likes for your conditions and riding style. On the rear I currently have the Sedona MX907 at 5psi. Great all around tire that's cheap and lasts. Going to try the Shinko 525 cheater next.
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Postby ericr » 12:01 am Jun 23 2018

I forgot to say that I'm really impressed with the Shinko 525 Cheater Hybrid rear. A couple weekends ago, we were on a trail that gained a couple thousand vertical feet in a few miles. It was tight switchbacks with a lot of 40 degree pitches with rocks, roots, hardpack, and loose rock. I'm geared 13:50 and was sure that in several spots, I wasn't going to keep going. But, I just bounced on the back of the seat, gave power, slipped the clutch a lot and that tire gripped without much slip at all. I was amazed. We'll see how they wear though as they are quite gummy.
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Postby firsthere » 08:23 am Jun 23 2018

What are the benefits of the Shinko fatty front? I'm running the 505 cheater on the 230 and really like the rear, front not so much.
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Postby shopman » 09:51 pm Jun 28 2018

Thanks for all the replies going over the 4th to give them a try have them set at 9psi front 6psi in the back to start with :grin: :grin:
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Postby SS109 » 08:55 am Jun 29 2018

firsthere wrote:What are the benefits of the Shinko fatty front? I'm running the 505 cheater on the 230 and really like the rear, front not so much.

Sorry I missed this. I can't say on the Shinko version but the tire it was copied from, the Goldentyre GT216XX 90/100 "Fatty", it is like adding another inch of suspension when riding in rough stuff (rocks, roots, and square edged stuff) and works better in sand. Only negative is that in ruts it can try to climb out when you don't want it to.
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Postby shopman » 09:01 pm Jul 07 2018

SO put little over 100 mi. on over the 4th week 9psi in the front and 6 psi in the back will go to 5psi in back next time had mud and slop where the loggers where working ruts and I love the feel I had, tracked where pointed it and stayed straight and true, could cross muddy ruts without slipping out I know I have new tires too but think the low pressure helps greatly too and the fatty up front helped in the washed sand too.

Riding up north central Minnesota.


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Postby KDXKLXKLR » 04:16 pm Jul 30 2018

Running low PSI is great, but KDX rims aren't very strong, and susceptible to denting.
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Postby Jason » 05:39 pm Jul 30 2018

KDXKLXKLR wrote:Running low PSI is great, but KDX rims aren't very strong, and susceptible to denting.


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Postby shopman » 06:12 pm Jul 30 2018

With a hundred pound tube tire inside the tire I don't think I'm going to worry about my rims cuz I don't think it'll get to the rim yet especially running a fatty up front and the 110 in the back.

Put 200 mi. on this last week in some rocky washouts and suger sand and love this setup no dings yet.

Running 8 psi Front 4.5 rear. :razz: :razz: :boogie:

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Postby bufftester » 04:38 pm Jul 31 2018

All rims are susceptible to dings, KDX's not any more or less so than the rest running OEM. Most dings you're going to get are going to be on the rim bead area from high speed impact. I have been running Tubliss in rocky high speed desert and have not seen an increase in dents. When I know I'm riding fast, rocky stuff I go up a couple psi, but did that with tubes as well. The plus is that without tubes you can go down and not worry about pinch flats.
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Postby shopman » 08:53 pm Jul 31 2018

+1 rode with buddy with 500 ktm with tubliss sys just put new tires on and had to much air in and was have trouble in the sand he drop 3psi to 9psi and was good to go he could steer it not it steer him
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Postby VTMTcowboy » 10:52 am Aug 04 2018

thirdgenlxi wrote:Running the same tires with Tubliss on mine..... usually run about 5-6 in the rear and about 8 in the front. Been running the Tubliss for almost 2 years now.... works great and I love it! Every once in awhile I get a slow leak and just have to pop the tire down off the bead, soak it with soapy water and re-inflate and all is well

The traction you get running Tubliss and low pressure is awesome!! Here's one example.... from a race the end of last year. That was at least 21 bikes I just passed in less than a minute. And I was on a half worn out rear tire..... I think it was an IRC VE33 Enduro. Camera flattens it out.... this was steeper and slipperier than it appears, lol



Like taking candy from a baby hahaha! Look like some good clutch work as well. I know you do a lot of road riding as well, do you notice a difference in the tubeless system when dual sporting?
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Postby 6 Riders » 09:07 pm Aug 04 2018

KDXKLXKLR wrote:Running low PSI is great, but KDX rims aren't very strong, and susceptible to denting.
Um, what? I think you had better check out what rims come on a kdx. They're not cheap rims.

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Postby thirdgenlxi » 12:39 am Aug 06 2018

VTMTcowboy wrote:
thirdgenlxi wrote:Running the same tires with Tubliss on mine..... usually run about 5-6 in the rear and about 8 in the front. Been running the Tubliss for almost 2 years now.... works great and I love it! Every once in awhile I get a slow leak and just have to pop the tire down off the bead, soak it with soapy water and re-inflate and all is well

The traction you get running Tubliss and low pressure is awesome!! Here's one example.... from a race the end of last year. That was at least 21 bikes I just passed in less than a minute. And I was on a half worn out rear tire..... I think it was an IRC VE33 Enduro. Camera flattens it out.... this was steeper and slipperier than it appears, lol



Like taking candy from a baby hahaha! Look like some good clutch work as well. I know you do a lot of road riding as well, do you notice a difference in the tubeless system when dual sporting?


Hahah that was still one of my favorite race moments, lol. And thanks..... where I learned to ride at is super gnarly and technical, and it WILL teach you clutch control.... very quickly!! Kind of a trial by fire thing. It's real rocky too, and steep..... very unforgiving for poor clutch and throttle control. I'm def a far better technical rider than I am a fast one..... put me in a wide open fast section and I'm lost

Not really difference on the street that I can notice...... I always pump them up to about 20 psi or so for street/dual sport riding. I don't like that wobbling around feeling on the pavement, hahah. Plus it's dangerous as it'll get the tire really hot at higher speeds for any length of time. If I ride somewhere then go off road I'll just let some out, then pump them back up after I'm done. I always carry a little air pump and gauge in my backpack. The only times I've run them low pressure on the street is during an enduro where I have to run them lower pressure for the off road part of the race, but then the transfer sections are often paved roads. We're usually only going 30-45 mph though, and usually just for a couple miles. Still does fine, just makes a lot of noise..... sounds like a jeep with mud tires going down the highway :lol: :lol: My supermoto tires I still run tubes in, but those never go off road other than the occasional gravel road, and I run at 30 psi. So I don't really worry about them
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Postby VTMTcowboy » 04:50 pm Aug 06 2018

Yeah I just love the idea of traction with the Tubeless system. I've heard good things about the Nirto Mousses as well. Down the line I will hopefully be moving back to my home state where a KDX can be street legal so just want to better understand everything. Thanks for the input and keep up the good videos!
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Postby bufftester » 07:22 pm Aug 07 2018

The Mousses do give good traction, but are expensive and don't last long...and a real PITA to change. Doing the first tire with Tubliss takes a little longer until you figure it out then it is basically like any tire change.
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