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Re: Problem after problem..

Postby Jim B » 11:26 pm Jul 05 2017

Any chance the front sprocket is spinning on the countershaft? (Splines on one or both are ruined?)
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Re: Problem after problem..

Postby SS109 » 01:49 am Jul 06 2017

Jim B wrote:What are you using for gear oil? Apparently, 'Energy Conserving' motor oil can cause wet clutches to slip. (I'm assuming you have that standard, or an equivalent, in Canada.)

I can't think of much (anything, really) that it would be besides the clutch and/or the chain and sprockets.

Yeah, that's one that totally slipped my mind, oil type. What are you using Scrandy? Maybe drain it out and try some ATF Type F or even Dextron/Mercon Type III.
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Re: Problem after problem..

Postby Scrandy » 08:41 am Jul 06 2017

I'm am running Klondike atf without a friction modifier. I checked before I put it in.
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Postby SS109 » 09:16 am Jul 06 2017

That's a full synthetic, correct? If so, that could be the problem. I know some bikes and some synthetics don't play nice together.
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Postby Scrandy » 10:29 pm Jul 06 2017

I'm not sure it dosnt say anywheres. I just checked for a friction modifier which it dosn't have. Same stuff I always ran before with no issues. Actually on my old clutch the first time I changed the oil after I bought the bike I accidentally put in an atf with a friction modifier because I didn't see it listed on the bottle until I seen the bottle laying around about 2 weeks later and checked it again and realized. so I changed it after that. It actually ran fine with that stuff. Anyways long story short the fluid that I switched to after that never gave me problems.
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Re: Problem after problem..

Postby bufftester » 05:34 pm Jul 11 2017

If you used the EBC springs did you check them for proper length first? The last EBC clutch kit I got the springs were 2 mm short which made them unusable, had to order a set of OEM springs separately.
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Re: Problem after problem..

Postby Scrandy » 10:57 pm Jul 11 2017

No I didn't. What would stock length be? I'd check mine but god knows how old they are.
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Re: Problem after problem..

Postby bufftester » 07:44 pm Jul 12 2017

IIRC spring free length should be around 36mm, with friction plates at 3mm and steel plates 1.6mm....or that might be for the E model...would have to check the service manual.
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Postby Scrandy » 09:13 pm Jul 12 2017

A service manual is something I don't have.
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Postby SS109 » 10:33 pm Jul 12 2017

H-series free spring length should be 38.7mm with service limit at 37.2mm. BTW, end of clutch lever play should be between 10-20mm.
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Postby Tedh98 » 07:24 am Jul 13 2017

Scrandy wrote:A service manual is something I don't have.


That is like a carpenter without a hammer.

You really should get one before you do anything else.
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