Hi Guys,
I've read several posts about the exhaust-pipe mods for the KDX... to the point I'm confused now, mostly bcz it relates pipe and carb mods. So I hope you can help me to clear the waters here...question is:
- For a stock carburetor 2002 KDX-220R (A9) trails/woods riding on technical stuff, what is the best pipe to install while keeping the stock silencer?, the woods, desert, other?
Thanks !
Pipe for Stock KDX220R
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Re: Pipe for Stock KDX220R
My 220 came with a woods pipe and with the stock carb it signed off on the top end pretty abruptly. Like it would pull fairly strong and then bam (time to shift). With the stock carb the highest rpm recorded was 9,040 with a 145 main, with a 35mm air striker it was 10,490 with a 155 main and 11,280 with a 150 main. That was during plug chops, I was really surprised. The stock carb is really holding the 220 back. I would love to see how it is with a desert pipe. If I were to buy a pipe for a stock carb it would be the desert for sure.
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http://www.frpoffroad.com/kdxposed.htm all hail the KDX god and his advice including his suggestion to your question.
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Re: Pipe for Stock KDX220R
Definitely the desert pipe for the 220.
It will give it some top end without sacrificing bottom end.
It will give it some top end without sacrificing bottom end.
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Pipe for Stock KDX220R
If you are riding tight single track, rocky climbs , woods that kind of thing then the "woods" pipe is what you want.
The 220 is ported differently to that of the 200 meaning that is power is designed for low end torque ( the 220 has a narrow power band meaning the revs drop off at the top end of the rpm range )
You can adjust the timing to gain a little extra on top , even fitting the "desert" pipe & 35mm carb off the 200 will all help raise the power but unless you have the head & ports worked on it will never match the 200 for all out top end .
My advice ( being a 220 owner ) is fit the "woods" pipe with a matching silencer , keep the air box lid on but remove the snorkel .... The 35mm carb does work & will help with the midrange without sacrificing any of the low down grunt a 220 is famous for. If you want some extra boost then the boyesen rad valve also works...I know because I have installed all of the above & more & my 220 hauls ass everywhere
I also had a 'desert' pipe that installed but soon removed it & stuck with my FMF woods because it shifted the power curve & made the bottom end somewhat flat which was a pain in the technical stuff... Yes it helps the mid range & on top a little but I much preferred the way the "woods" pipe behaved down low which is where I mostly ride....I also noticed that the expansion "buldge" stuck out quite a bit compared to the "woods" pipe so if you did have a spill on this side then I'd imagine this part of the exhaust would get damaged quite badly .
The 220 is ported differently to that of the 200 meaning that is power is designed for low end torque ( the 220 has a narrow power band meaning the revs drop off at the top end of the rpm range )
You can adjust the timing to gain a little extra on top , even fitting the "desert" pipe & 35mm carb off the 200 will all help raise the power but unless you have the head & ports worked on it will never match the 200 for all out top end .
My advice ( being a 220 owner ) is fit the "woods" pipe with a matching silencer , keep the air box lid on but remove the snorkel .... The 35mm carb does work & will help with the midrange without sacrificing any of the low down grunt a 220 is famous for. If you want some extra boost then the boyesen rad valve also works...I know because I have installed all of the above & more & my 220 hauls ass everywhere
I also had a 'desert' pipe that installed but soon removed it & stuck with my FMF woods because it shifted the power curve & made the bottom end somewhat flat which was a pain in the technical stuff... Yes it helps the mid range & on top a little but I much preferred the way the "woods" pipe behaved down low which is where I mostly ride....I also noticed that the expansion "buldge" stuck out quite a bit compared to the "woods" pipe so if you did have a spill on this side then I'd imagine this part of the exhaust would get damaged quite badly .
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Actually I have just remembered ....
It wasn't a "desert" pipe I installed but the Pro Circuit platinum pipe ....similar design to the FMF desert
It wasn't a "desert" pipe I installed but the Pro Circuit platinum pipe ....similar design to the FMF desert
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Re: Pipe for Stock KDX220R
Thank you guys a lot for you replies!
Definitively it seems there's a lot of things to do on the KDX...
Willbilly - interesting to see in the article on Fredette's site it say not to install the torque pipe on the 220r ?
Now I just need to find a decently price pipe...
Definitively it seems there's a lot of things to do on the KDX...
Willbilly - interesting to see in the article on Fredette's site it say not to install the torque pipe on the 220r ?
Now I just need to find a decently price pipe...
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Re: Pipe for Stock KDX220R
cornishwrecker - that is exactly what I ride... low technical stuff (kind of slow enduro/trials technical stuff). So I guess as you suggests it's the "Woods" pipe what will give me that low-end grunt that I'm looking to improve. I think the original/sock silencer matched the "Woods" pipe, right?
I'd also do the snorkel mod... and if I ever move up, I'll do the rad valve (at some point I hope...) also.
THANKS !
I'd also do the snorkel mod... and if I ever move up, I'll do the rad valve (at some point I hope...) also.
THANKS !
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Re: Pipe for Stock KDX220R
FMF desert pipe for the 220. The pro circuit platinum 2 is the only other good choice but they aren't made anymore. IMO the bigger carb and desert pipe are a must for the 220.
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