Are KDX Kickstands Poorly Designed?

John McIntosh · Post by **John McIntosh** » 06:30 pm Jan 30 2006

After my KDX220 tipped over for the 50th time I finally took the piece of junk off my bike so I wouldn't be tempted to use it. Do the rest of you have problems with yours?Good bye and good riddens to my kickstand

Post by **Mr. Wibbens** » 07:07 pm Jan 30 2006

Mine used to lean over way too much, but a little heat and a sledge fixed that

Kinda a PITA riding with someone without a sidestand, especially when you have to hold their bike while they go pee

kdxquebec · Post by **kdxquebec** » 08:29 pm Jan 30 2006

Yeah. Also,they wear and becomes floppy very fast. I see somes guys makes different kinds of attach to prevent the stand from moving when ridding.

I like the *** system.

edit*** KKTTMM. lol

Colorado Mike · Post by **Colorado Mike** » 09:33 pm Jan 30 2006

Mine works good, but it's only a year old. I think I remember seeing some guy had developed one that was spring loaded or something and it would hold the bike in a lot of different slope situations. Can't remember where I saw that, almost positive it was on the web,, but it might have been in one of my increasingly bizarre dreams

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quailchaser · Post by **quailchaser** » 11:19 pm Jan 30 2006

Mine use to allow the bike to lean too far over as well. Then I decided to loop the bike infont of all my riding buddies.

Two things happened:

One: I got a standing ovation

Two: My kick stand works much better and has only caused the bike to fall over one time in the last two years.

Just a friendly reminder...never attempt to unload your bike with the kick stand down.

John McIntosh · Post by **John McIntosh** » 07:04 am Jan 31 2006

I'm starting to think I may have the wrong stand for my bike. It seems too be too long. It is difficult to even stand my bike in a flat stable area. It eather sinks in and falls to the kickstand side or it tips to the non kickstand side. Even on pavement it is unstable. I bought the bike used. I wonder if it has the incorect stand? It looks right, but seems too long.

KDX220PHIL · Post by **KDX220PHIL** » 07:31 am Jan 31 2006

Sounds like it may be bent in towards the bike?
Let's see a pic of your bike on level ground.
Does the stand feel rigid?

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 12:12 pm Jan 31 2006

My bet's on bent. Or it's been swapped out.

The KDX even off the showroom floor has a pretty good lean to it.

Has your bike been lowered? Do you have the stock pull rods on your bike?

In most cases, the OEM KDX kickstand leans the bike too far over (LH side) and the bike pees fuel any time you use it.

Is your kickstand steel? Most aftermarket pieces are not steel. The aftermarket kickstand I use works very well (thank you mr. skipro)...is aluminum, so the lightness of weight helps in the 'kickstand drop' that happens with the steel piece.

Now...it hasn't the strength to withstand getting stuck in a rut, rolling backwards, catching the stand on a rock and looping the bike backwards.

Don't do that!

JD · Post by JD » 08:27 pm Jan 31 2006

canyncarvr wrote: Is your kickstand steel? Most aftermarket pieces are not steel. The aftermarket kickstand I use works very well (thank you mr. skipro)...is aluminum,

I want one!

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 01:45 pm Feb 01 2006

Ask Mr. Ski.

It was NOT specifically designed for the KDX...had a three-hole mounting tab. But, the top part of the bracket was easily removed..the remaining two holes matched fine with the KDX swingarm.

It DOES keep the KDX up considerably more straight.

BTW...having a lowered bike doesn't change the distance from the ground to the swingarm. It does change then tendency of the bike to fall over (it will be shorter).

Another BTW...regardless of the sometime hassle of HAVING a kickstand (it getting hung up on stuff), I'd sure not want to be without one. To each his own to be sure.

John McIntosh · Post by **John McIntosh** » 08:05 pm Feb 01 2006

Thanks for all of the feedback. I left my stand in northern PA. where I keep my bike in the summer and do most of my riding. So, I can't check it now and I don't think I have any pictures with my stand down. My stand bolts on nicely and it looks like the stands I see on KDX's in photos so I think it must be a Kawasaki stand? It does make my bike stand too staight up. Either it is bent (or rather the bend was taken out of the stand) or it is off of a taller bike? How would I go about bending the pipe? That sounds like it must be my cheapist option?

Post by **Indawoods** » 08:06 pm Feb 01 2006

A good vise and a lead hammer.... that's how my brother did it....

kdxquebec · Post by **kdxquebec** » 10:31 am Feb 08 2006

Is it possible to make something like this on a 220?

kdxquebec · Post by **kdxquebec** » 04:10 pm Mar 22 2006

yes it is

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/kdx200-k ... 8003QQrdZ1

JD · Post by JD » 06:16 pm Mar 28 2006

Bought one.

No more tree stand for me!

skipro3 · Post by **skipro3** » 10:46 pm Mar 28 2006

Report back how it works, if you would please. Thanks JD.
The aluminum kickstand I gave CC was purchased off Stealhy's website. (I think!?!?) I bought it when I got the fly wheel weight. (which is going to m0rie when he shows up this spring!!)

Also, to bend the kickstand, heat it with a torch first. It will bend like butter and not show heavy hammer blows that way. Just use a large diameter pipe to slip over the end, heat the tube red hot and bend away.

crazyaboutriding · Post by **crazyaboutriding** » 09:26 am Mar 29 2006

well, have you tried just bending the kickstand backward? mine was also bad, and after heating it up and bending it, it works alot better, but i believe they were mounted in a bad spot in the first place.

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 09:51 am Mar 29 2006

Nothing wrong with my stand. It keeps the bike from falling over and doesn't fall down. Do your KDX's have the tab off the frame like in my pic (just below the stand spring) ??

JD · Post by JD » 07:20 pm Mar 29 2006

Got the kickstand. Pic in the gallery.

Seems well built and a bit lighter than the stocker. Comes with new bolts for the subframe and chain roller. The instructions that came with it warned against using it while kickstarting the bike and considering the mounting points, most notably the chain roller, I would also caution against that use. But for keeping the bike from falling over it should do the trick quite nicely - and keep itself out of harms way in the rocks.

One other thing - you have to remove the stock kickstand mounting plate on the swingarm for clearance. I had left mine on after removing the kickstand last spring so I wouldn't screw up the thread holes in the swingarm should I decide to buy another stock unit. Well, when I went to remove it one of the bolts was pretty seized up. Electrolysis at work. When I finally got it out and the plate off I noticed both bolt holes had take some damage and were a bit ovalized. I ride through some really rocky areas and I think that the stock stand, judging by the damage, was getting slammed pretty good on a fairly regular basis.

TRXCR · Post by **TRXCR** » 01:24 pm Mar 31 2006

Jd, my bike was the one on the pic on e-bay with that kickstand. He used it for the pattern. Seems to work fine, but I haven't rode with it yet. Not a bad price either.

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Are KDX Kickstands Poorly Designed?

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Maybe I have the wrong stand?