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getting pipe reeds and pipe guard for christmas. finally.

Posted: 06:02 pm Dec 05 2005
by the trail rider
after a year of waiting i am going to be getting a pipe and reeds for christmas along with a pipe guard. only thing is i wont touch my bike until i buy the wiseco kit and gasket kit. have probably 500 miles on my 220 and am afraid to even ride it.

Posted: 06:13 pm Dec 05 2005
by m0rie
At least you'll know that your piston won't blow up when your miles from the truck enjoying your new pipe and reeds! :supz:

Posted: 06:15 pm Dec 05 2005
by KDXGarage
Is there a chance to get the Wiseco piston kit, bearing and gasket kit instead of the pipe, reeds or pipe guard??

Posted: 06:21 pm Dec 05 2005
by the trail rider
i figure that the pipe reeds and guard are much more expensive than the piston kit gasket and top end bearing. i originally planned on buying all that my self. i am only 15 and i dont have 600 bucks laying around somewhere. plus the piston kit plus gaskets are only 175 bucks which i can afford.

Posted: 06:25 pm Dec 05 2005
by KDXGarage
Oh, OK. I am glad to hear that you were not going to be knocked out of riding while waiting to get the piston kit, while you had a new pipe, guard and reeds. I was once 15 with a KDX200, and I would have gone crazy if I had to not ride while a new pipe, guard and reeds were staring at me. :grin:

Posted: 07:32 pm Dec 05 2005
by Ryan
horray im not the youngest member :mrgreen: :prayer: :prayer: :prayer:

Posted: 02:05 pm Dec 06 2005
by canyncarvr
I gather you have seen kdxquebec's pics?

Wise choice. Yep..you could ride it for years and be fine. You could also be busted to the tune of many hundreds of bucks..maybe out the entire bottom end with one ride.

Good job!!

Posted: 10:17 am Dec 09 2005
by dave04kdx
I recommend the Fredette pipe guard. I looked at several before decided on the Fredette unit. Jeffs fiberglass guards cover much more of the pipe than the other metal accordion type guards that I saw. Just my 2 cents worth :mrgreen:

Posted: 10:21 am Dec 09 2005
by KDXer
Or you could make one too.
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Posted: 10:46 am Dec 09 2005
by KanuckKDX
Cool guard.
What and how did you do it?

RE: piston paranoia

I have been reading the posts and looked at KDXQC picture. My piston is stock and after examining it, cleaning it easily and it looks mint, we are using it again with new rings. Yet here and in other posts many advocate replacing even new pistons. What's the deal? A Wiseco kit here is $150 CAD.

My bottom end repair is going to run me $400 CAD since I have numerous little fixes as well as bearings. Shift shaft is worn, kickstart parts need replacing, gasket kit complete, etc. The clutch basket is severely notched and we'll file it, but it should be replaced too. So saving $150 on the piston and under $400 on the clutch is important.

Will I regret it?

Posted: 10:49 am Dec 09 2005
by Indawoods
That's only on the 220's....

Posted: 12:01 pm Dec 09 2005
by KanuckKDX
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Indawoods wrote:That's only on the 220's....
Aha.

It makes sense now. KDX 200 bikes here are pretty durable so I wondered.

Posted: 12:20 pm Dec 09 2005
by KDXer
I'll do a quick write up tomorrow for ya regarding the pipe guard. :mrgreen:

Posted: 01:37 pm Dec 09 2005
by dave04kdx
Trev

The pipe guard good great! :supz: I would be very interested in how you made that.

Also, your bike is waaaaay too clean. :blink: How on earth do you keep it looking like that? :wink:

Posted: 02:43 pm Dec 09 2005
by KanuckKDX
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KAY DEE EXER wrote:I'll do a quick write up tomorrow for ya regarding the pipe guard. :mrgreen:
Can you clean the mud out from under that thing? It looks like it would get very hot as well.

Posted: 03:08 pm Dec 09 2005
by KanuckKDX
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dave04kdx wrote:Trev
Also, your bike is waaaaay too clean. :blink: How on earth do you keep it looking like that? :wink:
Dave:

Some of these guys have far too much time to clean their bikes. It's amazing. But they ride too so I know it's not all for show. Except Inda - he's working on a show bike.

The OZ is getting married. The bike will get a little less TLC then.

Then kids. Ha. We'll see dirt on the bike then.

Peace.

Posted: 07:24 pm Dec 09 2005
by KDXer
OK well the write up is still coming but there is no way dirt can get in between them. It does get hot, but nowhere near as hot as the steel. It smells a bit for the first few rides when it gets hot. If I've had a hard ride it still gets a slight aroma. It has saved my pipe at least 3 times where I can say I would have been replacing my pipe (one crash sheared the head off a mounting bolt).

Part one

1. Remove pipe of bike
2. You need to cover the pipe in aluminium foil to stop the f/glass from sticking to it. A few layers is probably best
3. I bought the fibreglass cloth (a weaved matting rather than messy strand like crap)
4. I cut the cloth into different shapes like squares and strips
5. Then you basically mix up the f/glass resin and paint a layer onto the foil
6. Now start laying the cloth on building up the layers
7. Add a layer and paint the resin on, build another layer and paint again
8. Keep repeating until it is a few MM thick and let it set
9. Now it should be stiff enough to take of the pipe
10. Trim it to the desired shape
11. Re-fit the guard to the pipe and continue to layer the cloth and resin until it;'s your required thickness
12. Now to let that set and get your sand paper ready to get it all nice and smooth if you so desire
13. I just use a high heat engine enamel to paint it black
14. A few large hose clamps and your done.

What you can also do is when the guard is finished but the resin not set, tighten the hose clamps on the guard causing them to be recessed into the guard while it sets. If I have missed anything or you neeed photos of the materials just let me know, I'm happy to help.

MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ARE....

Wear gloves, protective gear, in a well ventilated area and TAKE YOUR TIME !!!

I was a bit scared to make it with f/glass but it was a piece of cake really.

BTW the fitment of my guard is a 'snap' fit, it really doesn't need any clamps but I put them on to be safe. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: