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Help choosing!!

Posted: 03:08 pm Oct 14 2015
by Trickyrick
Hi All! New member here, making a return to dirt after a 20yr absence. I'm picking up a KDX 200 this weekend and I've narrowed it down to 2 bikes....problem is, they're both fine examples. I suppose I need a push in one direction or another. The first I'm considering is a *MINT* 2002 with a host of tasteful aftermarket goodies. Clean doesn't begin to describe this bike. It has only about 55hrs on the original motor. The other is a 2005 w/2001 USD KX fork conversion. It too is in great shape, with many upgrades, but it has been used as a woods race bike for the past few years. It's motor has been rebuilt top to bottom with no expense spared this past winter, with only about 20hrs on it since.
Both bikes are the same price, so that isn't a deciding factor. I have a feeling that if I buy the 2002, I'll end up doing a fork conversion sooner or later so I'm leaning a bit towards the 2005. BUT I love the condition of the 2002, it's as new as you can get.
Help me out!! Which would you choose and why??
Thanks!

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Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 04:17 pm Oct 14 2015
by Dekon
If it was me, I would go with the 2005 since it already has the fork conversion. If the motor has only 20hr SMOH, that also is a plus. I am sure others will chime in with their thoughts. Ultimately, it really comes down to your choice.

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 04:36 pm Oct 14 2015
by Tedh98
2005

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 07:51 pm Oct 14 2015
by Slick_Nick
2002. Silver framed KDX's are lame!

The USD forks are nice, but who knows if they're sprung and valves for your riding style? You may end up investing even more than it would cost to put USD's on the '02.

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 08:06 pm Oct 14 2015
by G22inSC
I have an '05 with KX forks and I say go for the 2002. If you want to swap forks later, it's not tough and a good learning experience. Besides, that KX green frame is just plain sexy!

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 08:10 pm Oct 14 2015
by Tedh98
Don't wait too long- you might not have a choice.

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 09:07 pm Oct 14 2015
by Jaguar
the 2002 because you probably got fat and lazy during your 20 years off bikes. ha! but seriously.
the 2005 is setup for a fast rider that races.

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 09:24 pm Oct 14 2015
by Trickyrick
Jaguar wrote:the 2002 because you probably got fat and lazy during your 20 years off bikes. ha! but seriously.
the 2005 is setup for a fast rider that races.
LOL!! I've been road racing most recently, so this would be a way to scratch the itch during the off season!
I appreciate the input guys. I'm going to look at both of them this weekend and one is going to be in my truck on the way home.
I'll report back with pictures.

Help choosing!!

Posted: 01:35 am Oct 15 2015
by SS109
The '05 hands down. Less hours and already has the KX forks. Setting up the suspension for it will be way cheaper than doing a conversion later and still having to set it up. Plus, frames can be painted! :mrgreen:

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 08:22 am Oct 15 2015
by Julien D
My vote would be for the 05 as well. I actually prefer the silver frame and black tank, and I'd rather 20 hours on an engine rebuilt by a knowledgeable person to 55 hours on a bone stock engine. The fork swap is also a huge plus, IMO.

When you go to look at them, try to check out condition of linkage/wheel bearings etc. on both bikes. If you can possibly get a quick ride on each of them back to back, that will most likely be the deciding factor for you.

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 08:57 am Oct 15 2015
by K50X200
'05...

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 10:03 am Oct 15 2015
by Trickyrick
Julien D wrote:My vote would be for the 05 as well. I actually prefer the silver frame and black tank, and I'd rather 20 hours on an engine rebuilt by a knowledgeable person to 55 hours on a bone stock engine. The fork swap is also a huge plus, IMO.

When you go to look at them, try to check out condition of linkage/wheel bearings etc. on both bikes. If you can possibly get a quick ride on each of them back to back, that will most likely be the deciding factor for you.
Good point about the bearings, thanks.

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 12:53 pm Oct 15 2015
by KDXrider1989
Id go with the '05

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 02:04 pm Oct 15 2015
by Tedh98
If you start leaning towards the '05, make sure to ask some specifics about the fork conversion. Like who did the work (RB, local machine shop, etc), were they lowered internally or are they stock and raised in the clamps, were they revalved or resprung?

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 05:11 pm Oct 15 2015
by Trickyrick
Tedh98 wrote:If you start leaning towards the '05, make sure to ask some specifics about the fork conversion. Like who did the work (RB, local machine shop, etc), were they lowered internally or are they stock and raised in the clamps, were they revalved or resprung?
He had a shop press the stem in, but he did the swap himself. No internal work so they were raised up in the triples a bit. Is there a difference in performance between internal shortening vs. raising?

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 02:57 am Oct 16 2015
by B737driver
Trickyrick wrote:
Tedh98 wrote:If you start leaning towards the '05, make sure to ask some specifics about the fork conversion. Like who did the work (RB, local machine shop, etc), were they lowered internally or are they stock and raised in the clamps, were they revalved or resprung?
He had a shop press the stem in, but he did the swap himself. No internal work so they were raised up in the triples a bit. Is there a difference in performance between internal shortening vs. raising?

Mine are lowered internally. You do lose a slight bit of "range" of fork travel. For me, 20 years I needed the extra travel. Now, not so much.

Another vote for the '05.

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 04:03 am Oct 16 2015
by 6 Riders
B737driver wrote:
Trickyrick wrote:
Tedh98 wrote:If you start leaning towards the '05, make sure to ask some specifics about the fork conversion. Like who did the work (RB, local machine shop, etc), were they lowered internally or are they stock and raised in the clamps, were they revalved or resprung?
He had a shop press the stem in, but he did the swap himself. No internal work so they were raised up in the triples a bit. Is there a difference in performance between internal shortening vs. raising?

Mine are lowered internally. You do lose a slight bit of "range" of fork travel. For me, 20 years I needed the extra travel. Now, not so much.

Another vote for the '05.
Yes, but if you have forks that have 11" of travel and take one inch out, you will then have forks with the same amount of travel as the KDX ....10". So not a bad thing to have them lowered, just don't over do it.

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 07:08 am Oct 16 2015
by Trickyrick
Well, both sellers sent me more detailed pictures of the bikes last night, and the 05 has definitely seen more use. There's a couple small tears on the seat, the plastics have considerably more scratches, and it generally looks more beat. That's not to say its clapped out, but it's been ridden. The 02 on the other hand, looks like you could eat off the thing, as close to showroom as I've ever seen. I'm an OCD nut when it comes to machines and mechanical things, so now I'm leaning towards the 02, LOL.
Eh well, first guy to drop a couple dollars from their "FIRM" price gets the sale! Otherwise I'll go get a KTM...... :lol:

Now onto a related note: what's a good boot that won't break the bank???

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 07:21 am Oct 16 2015
by KarlP
I'd go '05. You won't regret having those forks.

Re: Help choosing!!

Posted: 07:58 pm Oct 16 2015
by s10gto
02 has my vote. I am OCD when it comes to engines and perfer one untouched. Good luck! Keep us posted.