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Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 02:30 pm Apr 12 2015
by KDX Hellion
I bought a VERY nice 2001 KDX 200, took it for a ride today and my silencer got so hot it melted the FMF decals that were on it.
All I know about the bike is it has the Airbox lid removed, it has an FMF Powercore II Silencer/FMF Gnarly woods pipe and fresh piston. The KIPS valves are working and reeds look good.
Carb jetting is: 155main, 1174 needle in the 2nd notch down, and a 45 pilot.

Seems to run STRONG on the topend but down low it seems rich. It smokes a LOT at idle and will die if it idles long. When I got home I looked into the silencer and it was completely Dry. No oily residue, just dry soot. Anybody have an idea what would cause the exhaust to get that hot???

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 02:32 pm Apr 12 2015
by KDX Hellion
Btw, I'm running 4oz of belray per gallon of 93octane.

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 02:37 pm Apr 12 2015
by KDXGarage
That sounds weird. Have you looked at the spark plug?

Welcome to the forums.

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 02:38 pm Apr 12 2015
by KDX Hellion
Not yet. Thank you

Giving it time to cool off.

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 03:16 pm Apr 12 2015
by KDX Hellion
Here's the plug. Rich is an understatementImage

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 03:17 pm Apr 12 2015
by KDX Hellion
These looked new before the ride..
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Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 04:35 pm Apr 12 2015
by KDX Hellion
Here is my recent plug chop. 5th gear WOT for 10seconds. It's a little darker in person than in the pic. Image

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 07:15 pm Apr 12 2015
by KDX Hellion
I think I have figured out why the stickers melted. I pulled the silencer apart to check everything in the exhaust and the rear half of the packing was completely gone. I would imagine that would generate enough heat in the aluminum housing to burn stickers and then some don't y'all think?

Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 03:08 am Apr 13 2015
by Tioli
Am I seeing what I think I am or are you having a joke?

The second plug has left 2/3 of its self in the hole. The colour is a few seconds fron aluminium spots on the insulator. Possibly from a air leek at the breake.
What a beauty

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 05:51 am Apr 13 2015
by KDX Hellion
I chopped the threads off with a cutoff wheel so I could get a good look at the insulator. What do you mean by the color being a few seconds away from aluminum spots? Leek at the breake???

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 07:38 am Apr 13 2015
by KarlP
Plug looks fine.

I suspect you are right about the silencer and the missing packing. You may be running more fast stuff than the previous owner, that's why he didn't melt the stickers.

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 09:10 am Apr 13 2015
by KDX Hellion
I'm hoping so. The plug isn't as brown as I would like but it's not totally grey either. Packing should be here before this coming weekend so we'll see if it fixes my problem.

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 11:07 pm Apr 13 2015
by KDX Hellion
I've been running belray H1-R 2smoke oil at 32:1 but it's not readily available in my area, I'm considering switching to another brand that my local shop carries.
Here are my choices:
Maxima castor 927
Motul 800
Maxima super M

What do you guys recommend, and what ratio?

Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 02:39 am Apr 14 2015
by Tioli
Ok sorry. I am going to back out of this conversation. I have never looked at a plug exposed like that before so have no reference points to contribute.

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 05:43 am Apr 14 2015
by KDX Hellion
Well normally I would just look down in the end of it, but with the problem I thought I was having I wanted to be dang sure what color it was.

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 07:32 am Apr 14 2015
by G22inSC
KDX Hellion wrote:I've been running belray H1-R 2smoke oil at 32:1 but it's not readily available in my area, I'm considering switching to another brand that my local shop carries.
Here are my choices:
Maxima castor 927
Motul 800
Maxima super M

What do you guys recommend, and what ratio?

Castor may be problematic with the KIPS unless you really keep after cleaning it. I would go with Motul 800 myself. That or Motul 710 is what I use in all our smokers.

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 08:22 am Apr 14 2015
by KDX Hellion
Thank you G22

Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 09:23 am Apr 14 2015
by IDRIDR
I'm using the Maxima Super M.

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 09:57 am Apr 14 2015
by KDX Hellion
How's the carbon build up?? What ratio?

Re: Need some info. New to 2strokes

Posted: 07:31 pm Apr 17 2015
by BlackMist
Missing packing will def roast the stickers off! Motul 800 for me too, was running amsoil but I like motul
I'm at 40:1