2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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My oldest son picked up a like new 200----very low hours----in near new condition. He paid a fair price for it and offers it to me in trade for one of my 220''s . He says that I can simply change the cylinder and heads on the two machines and the 200 becomes a 220. Is it as simple as that? (My 220 is a 2004 or 2005---can't remember at the moment)

Would that be a simple bolt on or is there more to it than that. ?
PS-----we are getting a plethora of KDX's around here lately----we just can't resist buying them when we find them like this one. That means that we probably have one or two we could let go of if anybody is interested------
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Re: 2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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Cylinder, piston, rings, head and carb. I'm kinda curious why you want a 220 if the 200 is like new?

I too am working on a stock pile of parts/project KDX's as well. :lol:
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Re: 2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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avgKDXjoe wrote:Cylinder, piston, rings, head and carb. I'm kinda curious why you want a 220 if the 200 is like new?

I too am working on a stock pile of parts/project KDX's as well. :lol:

That's a good question----and I don't have a good answer except that I'd think the 220 has a little more 'push' ? I do already have a 200 but haven't ridden it enough to know really what the difference is. I was thinking that if I accepted his offer I'd be left with two 200's---and I do really like that 220.

My 200 has a Baja kit which makes it potentially street legal====but I have a WR 400 which I license for the street. The 220 is also permitted for off road. I just never get around to riding the 200 which itself is mechanically near new and so I'm thinking that I really don't need another 200 if I have to give up my 220 to get it. Still thinking though---sure like the looks of his 200---still with original tires and hardly enough hours on it to rub the paint off the frame----and barely a nick in the kickstarter lever---no scratches on the plastic---and clean as a pin----Never saw one that nice before---------it's a hard decision.
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Re: 2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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go with the 200, better bike. More meat to keep running cool, better piston, better carb, and less weight = easier revving.
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6 Riders wrote:Lets see a picture!

I'm not sure how to post a picture here? In fact he has sent me some pictures but they are on a strange format which I haven't been able to get into my I-Photo (which says the transfer failed---but I don't know why. Also my photobucket won't accept them? I could try to drop one on my desktop and maybe send it via an email to anyone who would ask and provide an email address to send it to? I might try to send that way to my other email address to see if that will work.
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2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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I believe you need to change a case cover also as the 220's powervalve is @ a different angle.
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the 220 is part # 14032-1419 and the 200 is part # 14032-1418
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Re: 2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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If you have a clean 200 I'd leave it as a 200.
If you want to make it a 220 all that changes is the cylinder and head. You can use either carb or any number of pipes.

The 220 would let you get a bit more bottom and mid-range torque. It has different port timing from the 200. Both the 200 and 220 can be tuned to suit.

My last 220 was great. With an RBD carb and head and good pipe it was a very strong and smoked my buddies stock 200
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2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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keep the 200, send the head and carb to Ron Black (RBD) and you will be on par with the 220 for bottom and have more topend than the 220, in other words a better bike. :mrgreen:
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While you have the 220 head, cylinder & carb off.....send them all to jeff fredette & get him to work his magic on the ports..mod the head & bore the carb for you....you will then have a bike that will really haul ass, & have plenty of power everywhere ! . :grin:
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Re: 2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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Fredette has racing heritage on the KDX, so there is something to say there. I and a buddy have sent heads and carbs to RB, as well as have him rebuild two cranks and do a KX stem swap. Always pleased with his work, good power gains throughout RPM range, quick turn-around, and fair priced.

Either way, you'll see a much improved bike over stock.
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kx200 wrote:the 220 is part # 14032-1419 and the 200 is part # 14032-1418
Thanks I knew I read somewhere on here about the powervalve rod angle. :grin:
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2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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you need:
piston
cylinder
head
MAIN KIPS VALVE, the 220 being obviously shorter than the 200...
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Re: 2005 200 ----what's it take to make it a 220 ?

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You know! You guys have bailed me out ----I would not have known that the KIPS was involved. With the advise and expertise that I have benefited from here I've decided that I will NOT try to convert the 200 to a 220. Jeff is bringing it by here on April 6th----We will talk and together we will decide whether to trade machines. If we don't trade than I think he intends to sell it. He only bought it because he though I'd want it---and he has more KDX's than he needs now. I'll take some photos of it when it gets here---if anybody wants to see it?
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