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Charl
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Jumping gears

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Hi All,

Since I got the bike is was " lurching / hunting" pulling mid range in 4th and 5the. Last night I fixed a leaky clutch gasket, and replaced the oil with an auto type (read the oil article - " the great oil debate" : http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/720396 ... il-change/ ) and tried a diesel auto oil 15 / 40. Previous was Motul 4t/2t trans oil.

Now the bike finds false neutrals.

So theories are - in order of preference:

1: Change to better oil

2: Messed something up putting clutch cover back on ( 5mm play, feels fine - doesn't like to be kicked in gear though, feel some resistance)

3: Snapped spring return (Neutral Set lever) behind clutch

4: Bent forks, etc etc....

Place your bets ladies and gents - any other Ideas?
Isn't it funny how knee down is painfull off road, yet foot out is likely impending doom on a Superbikes?
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#3 is my guess if it wasn't doing this before. It may just not be set in there correctly instead of actually broken. The "lurching/hunting" you describe is unrelated. Did the bike shift fine before you replaced the side cover gasket?

As for the lurching/hunting and idle problems in your other post- Once you answer a few questions there you may find that you have other issues in which case you may just need to fix the shifting problem while the engine is disassembled.
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Ok, I tend to agree - she was shifting sweet as a nut before.
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Changing oil seemed to do the trick!

I tried it again yesterday, and realised that false nuetral only happened when the motor was throroughly warmed up. Deduction - oil viscosity when warm is not to the the "ridden in" trannie's liking (It 28 Deg C here). Changed to some single viscosity 40, and tada! Positive changes all round, but clutch a tad draggy when engaging 1st. Going to use this as a starting point and find something in between in the ATF section.

If you REALLY try, you can find a nuetral between 4th and 5th, so clearly the trannie has seen better days, but not going to loose sleep over it.

Thanks Goofaroo, and Happy new year!
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It turns out oil viscosity is not the cure of all ills (Surprise!) - Gear lever loose. Talk about a darwin award moment... :oops:

I checked the neutral return spring movement while the wife was swapping the cogs, and the movement was erratic - tada, loose lever... Once tightened all seems well.

All of this however led to the discovery of the rusted Magneto and dodgy clutch discovery. I took off the cover to secure the flywheel to discover this - ouch! and now for a clean up, and a new cover. I also discovered that there is a thrust washer missing in the clutch - mow the large spring that goes against the last friction plate has no "SEAT-SPRING" as per the manual, so getting new ones...



Heres to hoping the Gearbox is not at fault. Meanwhile, observe the water bath below ( treated to leads of Q20....)

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