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Taping up the frame.

Posted: 09:08 pm Oct 07 2005
by Ryan
well, i have spent the last 45 minutes taping up my frame to get ready for touch up painting. Is it worth it? Well i doubt it but im sure my frame will look like new. I am only about 1/8 of the way done and have used a half a role of painters tape. I am taping everywere expect the spots were im gona use some pj1 touch up paint. I hope this stuff works good. well i will keep you all posted.

Posted: 10:20 pm Oct 07 2005
by KDXGarage
I have used it in the past and am about to use it again. I think it works well, especially for the price.

Posted: 10:24 pm Oct 07 2005
by Ryan
does it chip easily cause thats what im tring to avoid, i mean paint at my local hardware store is about $6 a can and it just chips and chips. Will this stuff do the same, and are you gonna paint your whole frame??

Posted: 02:58 am Oct 08 2005
by skipro3
It won't chip but it is soft paint that will wear off at rub points very easy. Also, any solvent will take it off in a hurry. Things like carb cleaner or brake cleaner especially. In fact, brake cleaner is a great way to get overspray off things that got dusted accidently by the spray.

Posted: 05:58 am Oct 08 2005
by KDXGarage
When I used it, I sprayed it on top of the original paint to do touch up work. I am going to do that again, plus use the clear coat this time. I had it stripped to the frame before, and I have done the same this time. I am going to use some primer on areas where the paint is rubbed or chipped down to the frame. Such areas will get a little bit of sanding with sandpaper. In painting, surface preparation is very important.

I can't say that I remember it chipping much, though I haven't really checked. If you want a better finish, you can get it powder coated. That is around $250. For $6, the PJ1 is definitely worth a shot. If you don't like it, you are only out $6 plus some time.

skipro3, what are you doing spraying your bike with carb or brake cleaner??

Posted: 07:40 am Oct 08 2005
by Ryan
ya i paid $27, for grey primer, kawasaki green, and clear coat. Including shipping. I hope it comes out great. CAuse it definatly is cheaper than painting the whole frame.

Posted: 01:15 pm Oct 08 2005
by KDXGarage
Good luck with your painting.

Posted: 02:18 pm Oct 08 2005
by skipro3
I use a dab of carb or brake cleaner on a rag to remove adhesives around my plastics, and overspray from using PJ1. I also use it to clean my carb externals, carb hoses and my brake rotors and pads every time I wash the bike. Good on spooge splatter too. Better living through chemistry, I always say.

Haven't you looked at my photos? I keep my bikes very clean. I get them dirty enough, I just like a clean bike to work on. Can't stand to work on a dirty bike. Dirty, Dirty, bike.

The hardest part about riding is that first mud puddle. After that, I'm like a pig in a wallow.

Posted: 02:26 pm Oct 08 2005
by KDXGarage
What do you mean by "adhesives around my plastics" and "overspary from using PJ1"?

Yes, I have seen your bikes. In my mind, getting a bike clean does not equal spraying carb or brake cleaner directly onto something, including the frame, so that may be where I was not making the connection. I usually spray the cleaning implement (rag, toothbrush, etc.), then clean the item.

Posted: 02:40 pm Oct 08 2005
by skipro3
What do I mean? I mean stickers and decals leave a sticky residue as the vinyl shrinks from age. That attracts dirt. So, like I said, I use a rag to clean that off. I also, like I said, use a rag to clean overspray off of PJ1. PJ1 is the spraypaint I use to touchup the frame.
The only parts I spray directly with carb or brake cleaner are the carb and brake. I use it to flush the dirt and grime from the nooks and crannys that a rag or brush can't reach.
Sometimes flushing isn't enough and a toothbrush is needed. But even then, I flush to wash away the scrubbed debris.

Posted: 02:45 pm Oct 08 2005
by KDXGarage
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know which of the many PJ1 products you meant.

Posted: 02:48 pm Oct 08 2005
by Indawoods
I've never noticed the Epoxy paint being affected by carb spray or brake cleaner. I get overspray all the time and my frame still looks new..... That was 2 years ago..... :razz:

P.S... my bike is just as clean as Ski's! :shock:

Posted: 02:53 pm Oct 08 2005
by KDXGarage
That reminds me. I have a spare '87 frame that I used to test some different cans of PJ1 silver/gray shades. I could do some testing to see how it stands up to a few chemicals.

Posted: 03:02 pm Oct 08 2005
by Indawoods
That'd be great! :supz:

Posted: 03:26 pm Oct 08 2005
by skipro3
I first realized I had a bit of overspray from where I painted my KX steering stem area where I took a torch to it and mounted a Scotts dampener arm. I had a shop rag a put some brake cleaner on and was wiping down the side of the cylinder to install some thermometer stickers. The rag came up with green on it. So I tried it on a painted area around the upper steering stem and yup, it took the paint off pretty easy. I didn't try and see if gasoline will remove it though. After that, I kept using the rag with brake cleaner on it for all sorts of things; like the outer cover of the throttle cable, the brake lines, fork legs, etc. It gets rid of crud you didn't realize was there and evaporates to a nice, no residue finish. Careful on plastics though, it will dull a finish pretty fast as it sort of disolves it a bit.

Posted: 03:36 pm Oct 08 2005
by Indawoods
I have overspray on my pipe... it will not come off with carb cleaner or brake cleaner. I am going to try steel wool.... that should clean it up. Epoxy paint takes a long time to set up, but once it does... it's hard as nails!

Posted: 04:16 pm Oct 08 2005
by Ryan
well thats a good thing then that it is as hard as a rock cause im putting it were boot rub occors and a few other spots like under my seat and whatnot.

Posted: 07:45 am Oct 09 2005
by Ryan
well, i just started to prime my frame and it is looking pretty good. I will try to take some pictures for you guys so you can see how it turns out.

Posted: 12:33 pm Oct 09 2005
by KDXGarage
Good luck with it. I am hoping to paint mine tomorrow (too much going on today).

Posted: 12:51 pm Oct 09 2005
by Ryan
are you just gonna paint or are you gonna paint and prime? o ya and clear coat??