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Do SR models have a different cdi box?
Posted: 12:06 pm May 16 2013
by Roadhazardguy
Just wondering if the SR models have a different CDI box with a different timing curve then our bikes since they're designed for street use.
Do SR models have a different cdi box?
Posted: 04:31 pm May 16 2013
by Dodger
Roadhazardguy wrote:Just wondering if the SR models have a different CD box with a different timing curve then our bikes since they're designed for street use.
Yes they do!
I have the Australian version of a 1989 KDX200SR - it's called a KDX200F1 - and according to the owners handbook the ignition timing is 17°BTDC @ 1300 rpm ~ 22° BTDC @ 4000 rpm.
The E series ignition timing according to the service manual is fixed at 21° BTDC @ 6000 rpm.
I have fitted the E series CDI to my bike (I had to extend the wiring as the CDI is mounted on top of the air box lid on my bike) but when I checked the timing of both CDI's by strobe light, I couldn't see any real difference in the advance or timing!
It's probably psychological, but I think that my bike goes a bit better now with the E series CDI!
Cheers
Do SR models have a different cdi box?
Posted: 10:19 pm May 16 2013
by Julien D
Dodger wrote:Roadhazardguy wrote:Just wondering if the SR models have a different CD box with a different timing curve then our bikes since they're designed for street use.
Yes they do!
I have the Australian version of a 1989 KDX200SR - it's called a KDX200F1 - and according to the owners handbook the ignition timing is 17°BTDC @ 1300 rpm ~ 22° BTDC @ 4000 rpm.
The E series ignition timing according to the service manual is fixed at 21° BTDC @ 6000 rpm.
I have fitted the E series CDI to my bike (I had to extend the wiring as the CDI is mounted on top of the air box lid on my bike) but when I checked the timing of both CDI's by strobe light, I couldn't see any real difference in the advance or timing!
It's probably psychological, but I think that my goes a bit better now with the E series CDI!
Cheers
Thank you for that post, good info there!
Re: Do SR models have a different cdi box?
Posted: 11:22 pm May 16 2013
by Roadhazardguy
Thanks for the info! I got to wondering this because I want to convert my ATK over to Sumo/Street use, and while doing so I want to get rid of the motoplat stator on my ATK and use a bosch stator from a Can-Am. Then I can rewind it for for better lighting and ignition, so i'm trying to figure out what the best CDI box would be to use. I figured the timing curve might be a deciding factor while picking a box and its looking more and more like it should be, any ideas?
Re: Do SR models have a different cdi box?
Posted: 02:31 am May 17 2013
by Dodger
Roadhazardguy wrote:Thanks for the info! I got to wondering this because I want to convert my ATK over to Sumo/Street use, and while doing so I want to get rid of the motoplat stator on my ATK and use a bosch stator from a Can-Am. Then I can rewind it for for better lighting and ignition, so i'm trying to figure out what the best CDI box would be to use. I figured the timing curve might be a deciding factor while picking a box and its looking more and more like it should be, any ideas?
Sorry but I'm afraid I don't have any ideas!
I've never swapped a CDI from one make of bike to another.
Good luck with your project.
Cheers
Re: Do SR models have a different cdi box?
Posted: 08:41 pm May 22 2013
by Roadhazardguy
Does anyone have an SR box they want to sell me or something with similar timing curve. That is pretty darn close to what I need if not just a few degrees higher at the bottom with about the same curve.
Edit: Never-mind that wouldn't be right, I misread it. It needs to be pretty much backwards from that. That is a really weird timing curve for a 2 stroke from everything ive seen, and that''s probably why you felt an improvement when you switched.
Do SR models have a different cdi box?
Posted: 10:06 am Apr 05 2014
by Jaguar
There are basically two types of CDIs, one that uses a trigger voltage and one that doesn't. The KDX doesn't. If you want a KDX CDI then you can buy one from me. Here is my page about it:
http://www.dragonfly75.com/moto/KDXCDI.html
Re: Do SR models have a different cdi box?
Posted: 08:57 pm Apr 05 2014
by KDXsg
Yes you can the E and SR 200 CDI is interchangeable. only difference is the extra wiring on the sr model cdi.