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kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 10:33 pm Jun 13 2012
by woodselec
I started tearing down the motor for crank seals and bearings and found some cylinder scoring. Is this normal nothing to worry with or do i need to do a top end also.
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I checked the compression before tear down and it was good.
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I did'nt clean any parts for pictures. I was not expecting the head to be that clean.
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kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 10:41 pm Jun 13 2012
by SS109
Doesn't look that bad to me. Can you feel what you think is scoring with a fingernail? If you can feel it, time for a replate. If not, then you are probably fine. Just clean it up with a Scotchbrite pad and reuse it.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 06:59 am Jun 14 2012
by woodselec
There are 3 that you can feel and all the scores are below the exaust port . above the exaust ports is perfectly clear no marks anywhere.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 07:15 am Jun 14 2012
by Julien D
scrub it down with a scotch brite pad and some WD-40 and see what it looks like after. Looks serviceable to me.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 08:04 am Jun 14 2012
by woodselec
I made a mistake in telling where the scores are they are above the exaust port not below.That puts them in the compression/combustion part of the cylinder. does that make this more of a problem?

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 10:13 am Jun 15 2012
by gregp
Eh. Unless you want a *perfect* machine, I would just clean it up and run it. I have seen much worse looking cylinders still in service. In fact, I would guess that if many of us tore our motors down right now, they would probably look very similar to yours.
JMO.

Re: kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 10:39 am Jun 15 2012
by Julien D
Agreed.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 08:35 am Jun 16 2012
by woodselec
Thanks for all the info. I am going to clean it up and run it
the bike ran very strong before tear down.
Hopefully my parts will be in next week and i can get running.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 08:58 am Jun 16 2012
by woodselec
One more question i thought of.
After i clean the cylinder with a scotch brite pad and break the glaze will my old rings be ok or do i need new rings?

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 11:00 am Jun 16 2012
by david
Would be best to put new rings in. They're cheap enough.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 08:32 pm Jun 16 2012
by scheckaet
david wrote:Would be best to put new rings in. They're cheap enough.
+1

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 09:15 am Jun 17 2012
by woodselec
does anyone know if rings for a 87-88 will work in a 2002. I found a set of 87-88 oem rings.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 02:40 pm Jun 17 2012
by Brian
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say "no". If it said "87-02" I'd say yes but it says "87-88". :mrgreen:

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 03:32 pm Jun 17 2012
by Julien D
I believe they are the same from 86+.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 03:44 pm Jun 17 2012
by kawagumby
I'm pretty sure the ring design (shape) changed from the C model to later models - but that doesn't mean they won't work. See if the piston locator pin fits the ring ends properly - I know that I had piston and rings from my c models and decided not to use them on later models because of the changed design, but I can' t remember the specifics.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 04:42 pm Jun 17 2012
by Julien D
I guess the OEM stuff changed then? Never had a set of C series rings in my hand. All the aftermarket piston kits for the 200 are specified as 86-2006. Since the pro-x parts (pistons and ring sets) are claimed to be interchangeable with the OEM bits, I just assumed that any pro-x or oem rings from 86+ should work on any oem or pro-x piston from 86+.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 05:47 pm Jun 17 2012
by kawagumby
I know the wiseco rings and pistons crossed over just fine, but the oem rings changed (I think they went to a taper type design for more compression) - the early ones may work in the later pistons tho', but I seem to remember something different regarding the pin configuration (maybe set at a different height?). Then again, trusting my memory for over 20 years ago is iffy...LOL...

Regarding wiseco, I'm in the process of rebuilding an 87 and it has a wiseco piston in it, so I read the numbers on the piston top. Some guy is selling an old (but unused) wiseco piston from back in the day on ebay, it had the same part numbers and I could also read the ring part numbers on the ring package that came with it. Wiseco uses the same ring part number today so I just ordered a set for a bike that hasn't been worked on for 15 years or so. Pretty cool.

kdx 200 cylinder scoring

Posted: 07:15 pm Jun 17 2012
by woodselec
Thanks for all the info
Just to be on the safe side i will order a new set of rings.