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Posted: 09:39 pm Jan 13 2010
by Varmint
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juliend wrote:I don't switch oil for break in. I understand the question as being whether synthetic oil is actually TOO good for seating the rings. I figure at 9k rpm those rings are going to seat.

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Did that ^ on a couple different bikes recently and have been pretty convinced so far. If you'd presented that to me a couple years ago I would have called you an idiot. Any more I figure what the hell, I'll try anything once. Twice if it works well the first time, and if it keeps working then I'm sold.
You know I've read that thing 20 times and I'm starting to think that page was put up by piston makers and the like so we blow up our bikes. But guess what, if I end up changing my piston, I'm gonna try it. :shock:

Posted: 10:38 pm Jan 13 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
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Posted: 10:54 pm Jan 13 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Swingarm and linkage bearings are done

Some were bad, some just needed regreased

Shock bearing is fine

Steering head bearing done

Been on a Lucas Oil kick for awhile lately so I'm using Lucas Red & Tacky grease

Gonna install piston hopefully in the morning

Be nice to have some weight back in the frame

Posted: 06:55 am Jan 14 2010
by Julien D
The cylinder looks good Wibb. Did you run a hone through there or just clean it up?

Posted: 07:14 am Jan 14 2010
by Varmint
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juliend wrote:The cylinder looks good Wibb. Did you run a hone through there or just clean it up?
wow! Seven years and it looks like that! Nice.

Posted: 10:35 am Jan 14 2010
by fuzzy
Did you brush the herculiner on the frame? Just curious as I have considered the exact thing for a completely different project.

Posted: 11:26 am Jan 14 2010
by KarlP
juliend wrote:
The cylinder looks good Wibb. Did you run a hone through there or just clean it up?


wow! Seven years and it looks like that! Nice.

Looks like somebody runs a clean airfilter..

I used the Lucas Red and Tacky stuff last linkage service and I used it again recently. My only concern was that it seemd to get "eaxy" and really solid when mixed with water and grit and rust. Might work better if I did not go so long between services.....

Posted: 01:45 pm Jan 14 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
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juliend wrote:The cylinder looks good Wibb. Did you run a hone through there or just clean it up?
Scotchbrite

I've got the bloody knuckles to prove it

BTW, I found that the Scotchbrite on a sponge works much easier, and does not snag as easy

Posted: 01:49 pm Jan 14 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
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KarlP wrote:
juliend wrote:
The cylinder looks good Wibb. Did you run a hone through there or just clean it up?


wow! Seven years and it looks like that! Nice.

Looks like somebody runs a clean airfilter..

I used the Lucas Red and Tacky stuff last linkage service and I used it again recently. My only concern was that it seemd to get "eaxy" and really solid when mixed with water and grit and rust. Might work better if I did not go so long between services.....
I usually let my filter maintenance go for too long, but I have always used filter skins, maybe that helps?

Posted: 01:55 pm Jan 14 2010
by KarlP
"eaxy" = Waxy

Posted: 01:58 pm Jan 14 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
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fuzzy wrote:Did you brush the herculiner on the frame? Just curious as I have considered the exact thing for a completely different project.
Yup, actually I just dab it on. I bought a handful of the cheap wooden handle bristle brushes, but I've been soaking them in xylene and reusing with no problems

I lucked out and found a quart of the Herculiner at Ace Hardware, I did not want to get a whole gallon.

I don't know how well it will hold up. You can't scrape it with a fingernail but on the sidepanels if you get over on an edge it will peel off. I don't think it like being on plastic. On the frame, it's hard to believe that it's tiny rubber particles, it really feels like part of the metal.

If you do try it, don't expect the lid on the can to come off after a few days if you get some on the lip. DAMHIK lol

I damn near had to cut the lid off!!

Posted: 02:00 pm Jan 14 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
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KarlP wrote:
"eaxy" = Waxy
I wondered about that but looked and saw your location, that was all the explanation I needed :wink:

Posted: 03:59 pm Jan 14 2010
by fuzzy
I've used it on the rocker panels of my suburban, and have to redo do to poor prep, but it was also the shitty duplicolor kind that did go on well with supplied knappy roller. Poor prep was exactly the minimal amount it said I had to do. Re-doing with herculiner and will 'prep' the crap out of the surface this time (ala belt sander). My question was related another project, but on round tubes as well....where the textured roller won't work. The texture on yours came out well so that's what I'm after. Stuff is pretty cool!

Posted: 04:07 pm Jan 14 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
With Herc you just need to scuff and then wipe down with Xylene

And don't get it on your skin, it won't come off period, least not for a week or two

Posted: 07:00 pm Jan 14 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Got exhaust valves all timed properly

Main valve is a PITA til you figure out how to set it up

Posted: 12:13 am Jan 15 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Piston is in, gott'r all buttoned up and torqued

New gasket kit sure makes it nice, new seals and o-rings too

Posted: 12:16 am Jan 15 2010
by Indawoods
I think that's the most work you have done on that thing since you got it! :cool:

Posted: 12:23 am Jan 15 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
No ****!

Gonna suck to get it all muddy :sad:

Posted: 12:26 am Jan 15 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Got the intake and exhaust all taped up

Gonna try to clean up the case some

We ride in so much red clay, the motor is stained with it

Posted: 01:20 am Jan 15 2010
by scheckaet
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Mr. Wibbens wrote:
We ride in so much red clay, the motor is stained with it
I know the feeling, what do you use to clean it up?brush and elbow grease?