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Posted: 02:36 pm Feb 22 2007
by canyncarvr
Re: 'I was never saying the fit of the filter had ANYTHING to do with how much dust it let into the motor.'

Neither did I.

Posted: 07:55 pm Feb 22 2007
by KDXer
If CC wants one then they MUST be good. :rolleyes:



In all seriousness, they possibly have a fit issue, they DO have a filtering issue and the price is, well, bend over... :butthead:

My advice is don't waste your time, money and possibly your engine. Get a tried and tested Uni or TwinAir filter and have some peace pf mind. :partyman:




Or buy the K&N and let us know how you like it... :partyman:

Posted: 08:02 pm Feb 22 2007
by Mr. Wibbens
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KDXer wrote: Uni or TwinAir filter and have some peace pf mind. :partyman:
Least til it falls apart :wink:

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Posted: 08:07 pm Feb 22 2007
by grump99
:shock: :sad:

Posted: 08:11 pm Feb 22 2007
by KDXer
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KDXer wrote: Uni or TwinAir filter and have some peace pf mind. :partyman:
Least til it falls apart :wink:

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Never seen a TwinAir do that. If you don't use the proper cleaning procedure you will eat the glue away like pictured above. :rolleyes: What is that ?? A Uni ?? They are known for having crap glue that gets eaten away if you use harsh chemicals.

Posted: 08:23 pm Feb 22 2007
by Mr. Wibbens
Used just good ol' gasoline :wink:

Posted: 11:25 pm Feb 22 2007
by jowens66
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Indawoods wrote:Makes no sense to me.... if you can see through it... dirt can get through it. :?
Take a look at the material the K&N uses, you can nearly see through it. It doesn't filter as good as a foam filter, but it does let alot more air get through, which in turn, up's your motor's performance. Its a risk, more horse power, with a bigger chance of something getting to your motor, or less air with a foam filter, and little to no risk for your motor.

If you do decide to run the K&N, i would suggest their little filter covers (not sure of the name).

But if i can buy a K&N filter and the little covers for it, and it fit good, and get more power, and be safe for the motor (with the covers), i will shell out the fifty bucks for it. :supz:

Posted: 11:42 pm Feb 22 2007
by jowens66
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canyncarvr wrote:??

The fit of a filter that lets 'the most' dust in an engine is rather beside the point, is it not?

Who cares how something that doesn't work fits?

And then say you want one?
Bofus wrote: This piston fits perfectly!!!
Refus wrote:But it's gotta HOLE in the top of it!!
Bofus wrote:But it FITS perfectly!!
Goober wrote:I WANT ONE I WANT ONE I WANT ONE!
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You said above, the fit of the filter that lets the most dust in an engine is beside the point.

We are talking about a K&N filter. You were talking earlier of how the K&N would fit on a KDX. I haven't seen one a KDX and was wondering about the fit of it. We were also discussing that the K&N may let more dust, dirt, sand, ect, into the motor. So no, it is not beside the point to talk about the K&N because i am wondering about the fit of it, and i'm wondering about the filtering capabilties.

I never stated that the filter didn't work. I stated that if it fit correctly, i would like to have one. The filter does work, maybe not as well as a foam filter because the foam is much more dense and the air has more to go through, therefore it gets filtered better, but the flow is hindered compared to the K&N. So again, the K&N works, but probably not as good as a foam filter.

Posted: 11:46 pm Feb 22 2007
by Indawoods
Has there ever been an issue with the air flow of a foam filter?
Not that I can recall.... so... why a K&N?

Posted: 03:19 am Feb 23 2007
by quailchaser
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canyncarvr wrote:??

The fit of a filter that lets 'the most' dust in an engine is rather beside the point, is it not?

Who cares how something that doesn't work fits?

And then say you want one?
Bofus wrote: This piston fits perfectly!!!
Refus wrote:But it's gotta HOLE in the top of it!!
Bofus wrote:But it FITS perfectly!!
Goober wrote:I WANT ONE I WANT ONE I WANT ONE!
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CC your post are typically quite amusing as well as informative...if not a tad confusing at times? But, this is the funniest post I've read in a long time. Then again, it's pretty late and I only had 4 hours sleep last night.

KN filter without a filter skin (or thier expensive "pre charger" aka filter skin) here in the desert will let most of the desert into your engine. Also, a high flow filter is more effective on a 4T as they are just Air pumps anyway. More flow in and out = more power. A 2T works with a supercharger type effect and the benefits are not the same. I would venture a guess that you would not feel (seat of the pants) the differnce between a well jetted KDX with a foam filter, and that same bike well jetted with a KN.

Except your wallet would be thinner and your risk of particles passing into your engine will increase. There are many mods that have benefits that are worth the added cost. I don't believe the KN is one of those. But, you should judge things on your own. Let us know how it works out.

Posted: 09:28 am Feb 23 2007
by jowens66
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Indawoods wrote:Has there ever been an issue with the air flow of a foam filter?
Not that I can recall.... so... why a K&N?
No not that i can recall, and i never said there was an issue with the air flow of a foam filter. BUT, a K&N does provide better airflow. Why a K&N you as? The power increase may be too small to notice, but then again it may not be. We won't know until we test one. Thats why.

Posted: 09:47 am Feb 23 2007
by KDXer
Just go for it, you know you want to. :supz:

Posted: 10:42 am Feb 23 2007
by Indawoods
It's your motor..... :pop:

Posted: 01:16 pm Feb 23 2007
by it175
My wife tells me that I ask alot of stupid ???. Now see what you have done. :oops: :oops: Far too many user on this site to let a good thing go unnoticed. No pro's yet. :neutral: hmmm

Posted: 02:42 pm Feb 23 2007
by Indawoods
So... now that we slammed K&N real good.... and you guys slammed my Ready filters... which is worse? :mrgreen:

Posted: 03:08 pm Feb 23 2007
by KarlP
I think both K&N and the Ready filters are the best.
They polish your ports while you ride saving you lots of Dremmell tool time down the road.

:lol:

Posted: 04:21 pm Feb 23 2007
by quailchaser
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Indawoods wrote:So... now that we slammed K&N real good.... and you guys slammed my Ready filters... which is worse? :mrgreen:
Flip a quarter 50 times and record the results.
Tails=K&N, Heads=Ready Filter

At the end of your scientific quarter testing, let us know th results. :mrgreen:

Posted: 07:25 pm Feb 23 2007
by Mr. Wibbens
I'm not planning on running one on the KDX

Out of the two I do have, neither one can you even come close to seeing through, :?

And cost? well the price of a Vstrom factory replacement throwawy filter is about $40, K&N was only $8 more