Another Hybrid In The Works
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Another Hybrid In The Works
I fianlly have a hybrid project underway. This one is a 2003 KX125 with an '05 200 motor. Most of the KX parts I bought from ebeck. The remaining parts came from Ebay or the parts house. I alao bought a silencer from David Bates (arrived today - thanks).
Everything has been going pretty smoothly. The bike is at the welder now to have the mounts welded in place. I am supposed to meet him early tomorrow morning to give him guidance on what goes where. I have more pics in my gallery (hybrid gallery).
The first pic below shows all the parts from ebeck. Here I am washing them. I don't like working with dirty parts.
The first step was to cut off the old KX mounts. I cut them off with a air cutter. Bought it Harbor Freight for $10. Worked great.
Next I ground off the old welds and then sanded the frame rails smooth. For this I used a 4" grinder and sandpaper. This pic shows the frame ready to grind.
The next job was to modify the swingarm. The long bushing in the swingarm has to be shortened and the swingarm has to be shortened (narrowed) the same amount. I shortened mine 9mm. These pics show the swingarm marked, in the process of cutting and the the finished product. I cut them a little long and then went to the finished length with a grinder. I made them really smooth with a belt sander and then a light hand sanding. As I was cutting I would continually stop and check with a digital caliper to make sure I was still on track and not veering off course.
After that I had to enlarge the hold in the rear of the cases from 15mm to 17mm. This turned out to be the hardest part of the job so far. I thought it would drill easily...NOT. This stuff ruined three bits. After that was done I was able to bolt everything together and start working on the mounts. The bottom mounts came from the KX, they just had to be shortened a little. The front mounts came off the KDX. It was almost an exact fit. I them hooked the pipe up and test fit it with the rads and airbok on. I then made some hangers for the pipe. Actually I stole them off the KDX frame also (along with the motor guard loops). The following pics shows everything bolted in place and ready for the welder.
More pics to come.
Everything has been going pretty smoothly. The bike is at the welder now to have the mounts welded in place. I am supposed to meet him early tomorrow morning to give him guidance on what goes where. I have more pics in my gallery (hybrid gallery).
The first pic below shows all the parts from ebeck. Here I am washing them. I don't like working with dirty parts.
The first step was to cut off the old KX mounts. I cut them off with a air cutter. Bought it Harbor Freight for $10. Worked great.
Next I ground off the old welds and then sanded the frame rails smooth. For this I used a 4" grinder and sandpaper. This pic shows the frame ready to grind.
The next job was to modify the swingarm. The long bushing in the swingarm has to be shortened and the swingarm has to be shortened (narrowed) the same amount. I shortened mine 9mm. These pics show the swingarm marked, in the process of cutting and the the finished product. I cut them a little long and then went to the finished length with a grinder. I made them really smooth with a belt sander and then a light hand sanding. As I was cutting I would continually stop and check with a digital caliper to make sure I was still on track and not veering off course.
After that I had to enlarge the hold in the rear of the cases from 15mm to 17mm. This turned out to be the hardest part of the job so far. I thought it would drill easily...NOT. This stuff ruined three bits. After that was done I was able to bolt everything together and start working on the mounts. The bottom mounts came from the KX, they just had to be shortened a little. The front mounts came off the KDX. It was almost an exact fit. I them hooked the pipe up and test fit it with the rads and airbok on. I then made some hangers for the pipe. Actually I stole them off the KDX frame also (along with the motor guard loops). The following pics shows everything bolted in place and ready for the welder.
More pics to come.
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- scheckaet
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man looks sweet!
Been thinking about going the hybrid route myself but a bit short on cash and...can't weld worth a damn (well I don't have a welder either otherwise I'd give it a shot)
If you don't mind me asking, how much will the welding job cost?
Been thinking about going the hybrid route myself but a bit short on cash and...can't weld worth a damn (well I don't have a welder either otherwise I'd give it a shot)
If you don't mind me asking, how much will the welding job cost?
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I will know later this morning how much he charges me. It's a guy I use a lot for welding so I didn't even ask him how much. I don't think it will be too much. It's only 6 small welds.
Finding the donor bike is the key. The ideal way to do it is to find a KX125 without a motor so that you have everything you need. If you try to do it piece by piece it could take a long time. It took me a while to locate a few missing parts.
I'll let you ride it sometime.
Finding the donor bike is the key. The ideal way to do it is to find a KX125 without a motor so that you have everything you need. If you try to do it piece by piece it could take a long time. It took me a while to locate a few missing parts.
I'll let you ride it sometime.
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Its looking good! Is that the stock KDX pipe you are using? If so, the fit is pretty amazing, I am startig to wonder how a newer style stock pipe would have fit my cr frame rather than the older style. Also, I really like the frame loops . Keep us updated.
scheckaet, most welders won't charge too much if you have the mounts already made and a way to hold them in place (i.e. having the motor in place). Also, from my experience, tig welding will cost more than mig. I lucked out because a guy from work was willing to weld my motor mounts on.
scheckaet, most welders won't charge too much if you have the mounts already made and a way to hold them in place (i.e. having the motor in place). Also, from my experience, tig welding will cost more than mig. I lucked out because a guy from work was willing to weld my motor mounts on.
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I've already painted it. I may powdercoat it some time down the road if the paint doesn't hold up. Actually I am now almost done with the final assembly. It took a little longer than I thought assembling a strange bike from parts (with many missing). After a lot of measuring, tweaking, fabricating and trips to the hardware store it is almost done. I have a cross country race this weekend at what is supposed to be the hardest, most technical course in the series. I should have a good ride report next week.
Stripping the frame.
Putting it together
Stripping the frame.
Putting it together
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I took it around the neighborhood and on some empty lots this evening. I didn't get to open it up since I was in twn, but I can tell it is lighter and it seems to turn effortlessly. I found myself leaning it way over just putting in and out of the trees. I think it is going to handle very well.
I also tried to weigh it. With the front tire on the bathroom scale it read 105#. The rear end weighed 110#. Am I correct in assuming that this means it weighs 215# total? This was gassed up and ready to ride. What do some other fully gassed bikes typically weigh? I'll post some finished pics by the end of the week.
I also tried to weigh it. With the front tire on the bathroom scale it read 105#. The rear end weighed 110#. Am I correct in assuming that this means it weighs 215# total? This was gassed up and ready to ride. What do some other fully gassed bikes typically weigh? I'll post some finished pics by the end of the week.
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As long as the bike was relatively level while weighing you're technique is probably just fine.jc7622 wrote:. . . With the front tire on the bathroom scale it read 105#. The rear end weighed 110#. Am I correct in assuming that this means it weighs 215# total?
And that's light - which is groovy!!
That's really nice work, looking forward to hearing how it does on your races.
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Sounds like a good build, not to mention it looks pretty good as well. As for the weight, add your weight along with year kx, size of frame, and year kdx motor to the list. It is to build up a comparison of stock vs hybrid weights.jc7622 wrote:I took it around the neighborhood and on some empty lots this evening. I didn't get to open it up since I was in twn, but I can tell it is lighter and it seems to turn effortlessly. I found myself leaning it way over just putting in and out of the trees. I think it is going to handle very well.
I also tried to weigh it. With the front tire on the bathroom scale it read 105#. The rear end weighed 110#. Am I correct in assuming that this means it weighs 215# total? This was gassed up and ready to ride. What do some other fully gassed bikes typically weigh? I'll post some finished pics by the end of the week.
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Here it is about 99% done. I have on order a chain guide, skid plate, rear tire, graphics, numbers, rear wave rotor and a few other little pieces. I'm starting to dig it.
Dirt Kid, are you still on here? Wan to to ride it again? You need to talk your dad into getting you one of these.
Skeck, let me know if you decide to build one. I'll show you exactly what I did.
Dirt Kid, are you still on here? Wan to to ride it again? You need to talk your dad into getting you one of these.
Skeck, let me know if you decide to build one. I'll show you exactly what I did.
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"People ate cows a thousand years ago for the same reason we eat them now. Cause they are easy to catch.We're not savages,we're just lazy. A cheetah could taste like chocolate heroin. But will never know. Those bastards are fast!!! "
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How much did it cost you to do the whole project?
Wilf
Looks great man, I'm waiting for your riding report and the opportunity to really try one before I jump the fence. I hope we can get together sometimes so I can try the BEAST.jc7622 wrote:Here it is about 99% done. I have on order a chain guide, skid plate, rear tire, graphics, numbers, rear wave rotor and a few other little pieces. I'm starting to dig it.
Dirt Kid, are you still on here? Wan to to ride it again? You need to talk your dad into getting you one of these.
Skeck, let me know if you decide to build one. I'll show you exactly what I did.
How much did it cost you to do the whole project?
Wilf
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02 KX 200 hybrid: RB head and carb
Sold ☹ DRZ 400 SM
bike build: http://www.kdxrider.net/forums/viewtopi ... ike+stable
bike profile http://www.kdxrider.net/forums/viewtopi ... 0709#30709
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jetting guide: http://www.kdxrider.net/forums/viewtopi ... 105&t=1156
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bike profile http://www.kdxrider.net/forums/viewtopi ... 0709#30709
newb info: http://www.kdxrider.net/forums/viewtopi ... 57#p117919
jetting guide: http://www.kdxrider.net/forums/viewtopi ... 105&t=1156
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would a 95 frame make a good hybrid?
02 KX 200 hybrid: RB head and carb
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bike profile http://www.kdxrider.net/forums/viewtopi ... 0709#30709
newb info: http://www.kdxrider.net/forums/viewtopi ... 57#p117919
jetting guide: http://www.kdxrider.net/forums/viewtopi ... 105&t=1156