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What would cause a bike to give a Hiccup sound when blasting through gears. I will blast through all gears and when switching for 2-3 and 3-4 the bike will Hiccup right when I shift and give it WOT. Could this be my needle? bottom end response is good. Top-end power is brutal. Am I too lean or to rich? and what circuit?

Not a KDX but KTM guys want even answer my post.

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That main looks HUGE!
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Jet main with plug chop. What you will find on this site is a guide that will help you learn this yourself, regardless of bike.

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I'm guessing the hiccup would be a sputter from rich condition. Drop the main down and try again, or lower the needle by one clip at a time and see if it improves.
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Post by fuzzy »

A rich condition will usually 4-cycle immediately, then clear out...Most definitely do a plug chop to check your main. We have no idea what MJ the PWK36 in a 250 is going to want (based off KDX data).
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ok well i messed up.. 165 main jet!!! that is stock... every thing stock expect for pilot and FMF pipe. It does a pop noise and kinda sputters.
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I tried lowering the needle but it seemed to make it worse.
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Did you lower the clip or raise the clip(which would actually lower the needle)? If 165 is stock you'll most likely need to be leaning that down....esp in LA.
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I raised the clip (lowering the needle). I have it jetted to the factory specs for my elevation and temp. I get confused with that though. When the weather gets hot, I will need to get more air? so I would need to lean out jetting during summer months, and richen up during winter? It has just started to do this. It has been pretty hot down here.
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Use your air screw for that. :wink:
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Post by fuzzy »

Indeed...fine tune with the screw. Need to jet your main via plug read. Generally hot=leaner, cold=richer concerning weather, but it's all about air density.
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when i had the 162 the power was really soft. i put 165 back in and power is pretty nice except for the stutter, hiccup thingy. wouldnt midrange power be effected by needle get?
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generally yes, but make sure you are thinking of throttle position when you say midrange, and not RPM.
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well then maybe it is my main... I am always WOT. I never really roll the throttle. I will try just rolling the throttle hard through all the gears and see at what throttle position the noise is coming from.
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If you're able to be always at WOT on a 250 I'd say something is wrong with the bike. Most riders are rarely at WOT.
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