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What needle?

Postby HSV-Dirtrider » 02:40 pm Dec 06 2017

Before I bought the bike this is the needle that was installed, as per the dealer paperwork. What needle is this? I want a DEL or CEL but I am pretty sure this isn't one of those... LOL.


16009-1831 R1173K/2AFKP

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What needle?

Postby Timtee » 05:26 pm Dec 06 2017

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Re: What needle?

Postby Jason » 07:33 pm Dec 06 2017

Stock Kawasaki numbers are not the same as Keihin part numbers.

Look through some of the old threads and see if someone has posted a conversion chart. If you order Keihin parts, it will be BEP, CEL, DEK, etc. Kawasaki needles don't always correspond, but I think the Keihin needles do. I know there is no aftermarket replacement for the 1987 KDX200 for example.
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Re: What needle?

Postby bufftester » 07:34 pm Dec 06 2017

The stock 1173K is equivalent to a BFP. JetsRUs p/n for the CEL is 017-017, the DEL is 017-029.

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Re: What needle?

Postby Jason » 06:01 am Dec 07 2017

SWEET!!!

Awesome, buftester!
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Re: What needle?

Postby Julien D » 09:57 am Dec 07 2017

There's also a needle conversion guide posted here in this section as a sticky.

viewtopic.php?f=105&t=3263
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Re: What needle?

Postby HSV-Dirtrider » 02:25 pm Dec 11 2017

Julien D wrote:There's also a needle conversion guide posted here in this section as a sticky.

viewtopic.php?f=105&t=3263


I saw the conversion chart but wasn't sure how to read it. Check me if I am wrong. To convert R1173K from the full OEM part number; 16009-1831 R1173K/2AFKP I came up with off the conversion table:

11 = B
73 = P
K = F
BPF

My current KDX has this needle in it and the previous owner installed the FMF Gnarly Woods pipe and FMF silencer on it. Based on other threads I read about the pipe I should have a CEL or DEL needle.

Thanks everyone! I didn't want to purchase something I already had and it looks like I need to place the order for both the CEL and DEL needles. Based on what I also read I think I will end up with a 150/152 main and about a 40 or 42 pilot. I think that is where most fall into. I bought a whole range of jets just in case.

I learned a lot. I appreciate all the answers and feedback.
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Re: What needle?

Postby HSV-Dirtrider » 02:28 pm Dec 11 2017

OK the other chart shows it is in a different order show it should be BFP as per what bufftester linked in his reply. Either way it is not the needle that I was looking for... LOL
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Re: What needle?

Postby Jason » 04:46 pm Dec 11 2017

017.017 48-CEL PJ J/N $5.51

017.029 48-DEL PJ J/N $5.51
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