Odometer question

wanaride · Post by **wanaride** » 07:20 pm Nov 29 2006

I'm planning to install 2004 KX125 forks/wheel on my KDX200. The forks haven't arrived yet, but looking over the KX wheel diagram on the Kawasaki website doesn't reveal an odometer cable hookup.

Is the odometer bye bye after a fork conversion?

strider80 · Post by **strider80** » 07:43 pm Nov 29 2006

Yes. Need to go electronic.

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 07:56 pm Nov 29 2006

Generally speaking, yes.

The KX wheel doesn't have the drive, for one thing.

It (USD conversion w/ODO) can be made to work. Phil (Canada) made a custom axle to fit his KDX wheel to the KX forks, so he kept (could have if he didn't) his ODO.

I don't have the ability to do such a thing.

stringburner · Post by **stringburner** » 08:32 pm Nov 29 2006

Just get a TrailTech, or bicycle computer (cheap), and you'll still have alot more features than the stock odometer. The new Trailtech Vapor has a tach, outside temperature, coolant temperature, speedometer, clock, etc. Cool stuff. they have KDX specific kits too.

AZRickD · Post by **AZRickD** » 09:00 pm Nov 29 2006

Here's my Vapor, you might want the Endurance instead:

More info later.

Rick

AZRickD · Post by **AZRickD** » 09:03 pm Nov 29 2006

http://trailtech.net/store/computers.html

http://trailtech.net/store/computer_comparison.html

I have the Vapor and it works fine. I had to replace the first one but Trail Tech's service is OUTSTANDING. Very impressed. Tell Kelly I said so. The Vapor is about $100. They have two other models, the Endurance (also $100) and the Lynx ($80) for ATVs.

The Vapor gives temp readings (water and air) and has a tachometer as well as power input options the others lack.

BUT... the Vapor doesn't have "Enduro" mode calculations such as "Avg Speed," "Delta Distance," etc.

I don't know if that is important to you.

Rick

stringburner · Post by **stringburner** » 09:12 pm Nov 29 2006

How difficult was the Vapor to hook up for the tach? I know the coolant temp, is just a fitting in the hose. I was thinking the Lynx was for bikes too, just w/ less features than the Vapor.

I agree on their service. I got a 2k-3 stator for my KTM from them. I wanted more lighting power, but I wanted it the same weight as the 2k-2 (original), which is less than the 2k-3. No problem for them. They also sent me a 4-stroke flywheel puller, which was wrong. I called them, and they simply sent me the proper tool, w/o asking me to send the other one back, or billing me for both until I sent the other one back. Good people.

AZRickD · Post by **AZRickD** » 09:34 pm Nov 29 2006

Hook up for the tach is simple.

"Ten loops of the red wire around the sparkplug wire."

I zip-tied mine in place to make sure it doesn't come off. Then the black wire to ground.

The Vapor has three settings to pick up proper rev readings from 2-stroke vs 4 stroke.

They are .5 PPR (pulse per revolution), 1 PPR, and 2 PPR. Apparently 2 PPR is the way to go.

Easy to set up the computer. Press and hold all three buttons for three seconds until it flashes and then release. The left button moves the position of the cursor while the right button moves the numbers up (or is that the other way around?). The center Mode button takes you to the next setting such as Farenheit or Centigrade; where to set your upshift warning lights, measuring your front tire size for MPH and distance measurements (I left mine at the default setting), MPH vs KPH, etc, etc.

The thing that might baffle you is how to power it up on the electrical system. It comes with a battery that is said to last a year, but I wouldn't trust that. What I finally did was to pull apart the connector to my lowbeam power and solder it there. As a result, I can have the Vapor powered on low beam and unpowered at no light or at high beam. It seemed poetic at the time.

Rick

wanaride · Post by **wanaride** » 10:08 pm Nov 29 2006

Wow, I'm glad I asked. Great info! Lord willing I'll plan to get a Vapor, if those forks ever come in...

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 11:01 am Nov 30 2006

I'll be ordering 2x Vapour units + mounting kits in February so if you find em cheaper than $110US please do tell...

Heres where I'm getting mine from.

http://www.dunesport.net/index.asp?Page ... ProdID=677
https://www.dunesport.net/index.asp?Pag ... ProdID=631

They give you a discount when you checkout also. They quoted me $300.61 for the units and mounts (plus $50US shipping fees). $430US was the cheapest I could find them locally (inc shipping).

Green Hornet · Post by **Green Hornet** » 11:41 am Nov 30 2006

By the way where is Phil??

bradf · Post by **bradf** » 12:56 pm Nov 30 2006

Last I heard from Phil was in May went he sent me the stuff so I could use my KDX wheel on the KX forks, for free!

Post by **Indawoods** » 01:52 pm Nov 30 2006

He'll be back... Just busy with work and such.

AZRickD · Post by **AZRickD** » 12:30 am Dec 01 2006

$110?

I paid $99 direct from Trail Tech.

Rick

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 02:50 am Dec 01 2006

Unfortunately TrailTech only ships VIA UPS, that equates to more than double what USPS would charge.
USPS = $50US UPS = $115US

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 01:35 pm Dec 01 2006

How do you get water temp readings? More wires I assume?

And..what is the 'wireless' I've read about? It's wireless..from the wheel slug/sensor to the unit? It has a transmitter? More batteries?

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 02:04 pm Dec 01 2006

canyncarvr wrote:How do you get water temp readings? More wires I assume?

And..what is the 'wireless' I've read about? It's wireless..from the wheel slug/sensor to the unit? It has a transmitter? More batteries?

Water temp sensor goes into radiator hose/filler neck or similar. Yep with wires even.

The unit runs off batterries as well as AC/DC. I don't know what constitutes 'wireless' but it does have a wire from the front caliper to the unit as well as one to the sparky lead so I don't understand how its wireless either.

Nah no transmitters you can put ya tin-foil hat back in the cupboard.

AZRickD · Post by **AZRickD** » 10:18 pm Dec 01 2006

Nothing in the Vapor is wireless. The web site mentioned something about a wireless control for the Endurance if you wanted to use certain functions.

The Vapor is a pretty straight-forward installation.

Most folks put the water temp sensor on the downside water tube, but I put mine on the tube that goes between both radiators just below the tank (I didn't want mine "hanging out there"). Probably not the best place to put it for temp accuracry if your water level gets low, as you'll be measuring the temperature of steam rather than water, but I haven't had a problem.

I suggest for a mount that you buy some 2x2 aluminum angle and cut to size (with an ample cut for the wires to drape out. One half of the 2x2 mounts the two screws of the Vapor, an the other mounts to the two holes in the KDX/KX top triple tree (or just one hole like my '98 KX TT). Counter-sinking for the two Vapor screws is advised.

Rick

Post by **Indawoods** » 10:33 pm Dec 01 2006

I wonder if the '08 KLX 450F will have a similar unit?

I have the Endurance model and it is on the original batteries still. It works very well for it's intended purpose. Nice unit but pricey once you start adding the billet mount.

wanaride · Post by **wanaride** » 11:07 pm Dec 01 2006

OK, another dumb question. Since I am installing KX triple clamps/forks on my KDX200, which Vapor kit do I get? The KX kit or the KDX kit??

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